Setting multiple beat grids in Traktor?

Setting multiple beat grids in Traktor?

Google’d and couldn’t find anything real helpful.

Song transitions from 70bpm to 110bpm, is there a way I can like set a new beat grid at the tempo shift?

Been messing around with it for a while and am not getting anywhere.

As far as I know you can place different grid markers if there’s a grid transition in your track but there can only be defined one tempo per track. Song transitions from one bpm count to another have to be beatmatched manually!

this should be easier with 2.5 update -flexible beatgrids

Except 2.5 does not have flexible beatgrids

Right! In the description they only mention improvements in bpm detection! That has nothing to do with the ability to set several different beatgrids or tempos.

Pretty sure that was a joke… NI seem to have made it pretty clear that flexible beatgrids is low on their list of priorities for updates.

that, and our hapless cries for a larger mapping window and the return of the mighty native mix recorder .. sigh

sync is the way forward for this… mix in the track at one bmp and then push the master track faster or slower to hit the tempo you need :slight_smile:

or warp the track in ableton…

Except that will completely mess up the track if it is a deliberate tempo change…

+1 for mapping window - which i presume is never going to happen :stuck_out_tongue: traktor used to have something better than the current mix recorder? guess i haven’t really used it - but seems to do what it says on the tin?

There used to be a recorder that recorded your actions on files rather than recording the audio (kind of like “mixtape” in Serato under the “bridge”) so that you could go back and tweak your mix without re-recording the whole thing.

damn… that’s pretty cool! guess i didn’t see that. i bought traktor studio 3 2nd hand to upgrade to tp2. was it in traktor studio 3 or traktor pro 1? not that it matters i guess - but that does sound pretty cooi…

I think it was just in Traktor Studio 3; it definitely wasn’t in any Traktor Pro product. Nor in Traktor Scratch (which I guess makes sense since the tweaks would be on an external mixer). NI doesn’t seem to have any interest in bringing it back; people on the native discussion board argue it’s too resource intensive (though I don’t see how it has to be if it’s just passively recording actions and info). I never got to play with it; the first Traktor I owned was the first Traktor Scratch and it was gone by then. I think it would definitely be a cool thing to add back in Traktor.

Honestly if Serato had done “the bridge” right I probably would have switched and never looked back. You can have way better effects than Traktor using VSTs in Ableton and have way more control over them, with MIDI mapping being a breeze rather than working with an arcane spreadsheet in a tiny unresizable window lacking basic editing and maneuvering functionality. But on the flip side you simply don’t have the kind of mapping control that you have in Traktor in terms of doing multiple complex things with one knob. And mixtape is a great way to lay out ideas and then play around with them. But the bridge doesn’t let you route serato’s decks through Ableton’s effects for some reason, which kind of handicaps its main benefits. I mean, playing loops and samples is nice too but you can kinda do that already in most DJ software including both Traktor and Serato.

if there was some way of traktor outputting midi for what tracks are being loaded and associated midi in’s then all you would need to do is record the midi and play it back. can’t see how any of that is too intensive…

i never use the traktor mapping window anyway as i do all mine via midimasher and have just started routing audio out from traktor into ableton to add extra effects and stuff if needed. not yet convinced it’s worth it - but it’s quite fun. i don’t over use effects anyway and whether i need clip launching from ableton depends on how good the remix decks in traktor 2.5 will be i guess.

That does sound pretty cool. I had to do something like 8 takes on one of my podcasts the other day to get it where I wanted it, and even then I still had to touch it over in Logic a bit. NI definitely needs to bring this back.

I was wondering this the other day while trying to beatgrid one of my bootlegs. Track went from 130 to 128 to 126…

I gave up in the end and did it by ear.

It all comes back too manually beat mixing songs. if you have a music file foes from 80-124bpm. on deck b the track will be 124, you’ll have too manually beat match the song. synch won’t help you.

How I deal with multiple BPMS in Traktor

I realise this is an old thread so people have probably well and truly moved on haha
but if you are still pondering over handling multiple BPMS in traktor, here’s my little method.

My tip is to have each tempo transition track clearly marked with to and from bpms so you know where it’s coming from and where it’s going. Dealing with whole number BPMs is preferable, particularly if you occasionally use thumbdrives like I do or are changing over from another DJ with the same setup into the cdjs and need something lightweight to help the changeover.

The next step is to go to the grid section and type the first BPM and then hit the downbeat flag over the first beat which will set the bpm on course for what BPM you’ve typed in.

I’ll then type in the second BPM and add a downbeat flag where it kicks in with the new BPM. From there I’ll normally add additional loop points and hotcues. Basically what this means though is once you’re done with one BPM, just punch in the new BPM and you’re grid will be all pre lined up for where the track changes course. So it’s just a case of changing the track’s bpm value for whatever side of the transition you are.