Sound issues with Traktor Audio 6

Sound issues with Traktor Audio 6

Hi there. Hoping someone can help me?

I have a Traktor Audio 6 unit and am trying to get it running with Traktor Scratch Pro 2, timecoded vinyl and decks. I have managed to get it running properly with the it calibrating correctly and playing through both channels, however…

The sound quality is really poor. It sounds like it is clipping really badly and the levels all seem really high (can’t push faders up on mixer as its too loud).

I feel like i have tried everything. Updated driver and firmware etc, gone through setup instructions multiple times, restarting computer, changing RCA leads, adjusting soundcard master volumes etc.

I don’t have the specs of my computer on me but i have checked and double checked that my computer can handle it and all seems fine.

I have thoroughly cleaned the contact vinyl which are actually new.

It gives the same clipping sound through headphones plugged into my external mixer (Numark DM1001X, so fairly old but works fine with direct vinyl).

The only thing i havent looked into is the quality of my needles. I have fairly cheap needles running, however they are in decent enough condition. No sound issues running direct vinyl. Could this be the cause of the issues. If so what cartridges should i use?

Any advise would be hugely appreciated as i have run out of ideas.

Regards
Craig

are the decks responding in traktor correctly with the timecodes?
if so, then your input route can be excluded as the problem.

are you using asio driver, not the other?

I have to lower the main output from traktor otherwise at zero the volume overloads.
I run it around -4 to -5.
this is with an audio 10

Hi there thanks for getting back to me.

The decks seem to be operating correctly in timecode. they are calibrating and everything seems to work

Under audio setup - have Tractor Audio 6 selected and the audio driver.

Under Built In Soundcard i have Asio audio driver or traktor Audio 6 selected. It doesnt seem to make any difference.

I have to lower the main output from traktor otherwise at zero the volume overloads.
I run it around -4 to -5.
this is with an audio 10

How and where do i adjust this? I have gone into to driver setup for Traktor Audio 6 and adjust what i think is the volume levels - Left channel, right channel and master channel and adjusting them doesnt make any difference?

Cheers
Craig

Audio 6 is plugged into LINE inputs on the mixer, right?

master is at the top of the mixer section of traktors main window.

even though you are mixing externally, it’s good to have the mixer controls showing.
this allows you to see if anything is set wrong.

Hate it when they solve the issue but don’t report back… :unamused:

Still having issues but different now

Hey all,

Sorry for not replying Slayformoney. Have been tearing my hair out trying to make this run properly.

Original issues have been sorted. Firstly i had it running through phono on external mixer. Just assumed because i was using turntables that was the go.

Also the volume output on the Traktor Scratch Pro 2 software was set too high.

My issue now is the Load. I cannot get it to not go into the red. I have read what feels like everything i can find on the situation and tried everything.

I am running through a desktop computer, which i have checked and is more than powerful enough to run it.
I have gone through and changed various settings on computer in order to gear it towards DJing and music production.

I have tried various latency settings etc in traktor scratch pro but it always seems to clip, pop and operate badly.

I am having popping, clipping and the pitch controls not stable (increases and decreases in speed, rendering it impossible to mix)

When i adjust different latency settings etc the pitch control on TSP2 software drops all the way down speeding my tune up to about 200 odd bpm which is weird.

I feel like i have tried everything to optimise my computer and to set up TSP2’s latency settings etc but nothing seems to work. It is always in the red.

Any further suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I really don’t know what else i can try.

Thanks again and again sorry for not replying

Cheers
craig

Already tried to reinstall Traktor?

That is one thing i haven’t tried to be fair.

Will delete everything tonight and try re-installing everything.

Its really weird as my computer tells me it’s using like 2% CPU etc. Computer well powerful enough but as soon as i run TSP2 it shits itself.

Managed to get it running kind of ok last night. The load seems very unstable. when nothing is running it sits at around 50% but moves up and down clipping into the red then dropping back down etc, and that is with nothing running. When i load a tune (vinyl timecode) it clips in the red.

Managed to do a small mix without too many problems last night but still clipping high.

Cheers

Traktor Audio 10 Help

Hey, did you ever resolve the problem?
Sorry to everyone else for bringing up an old thread.
This is happening to me too with Traktor Audio 10.
Similar if not same circumstances. Can’t seem to get out of the red. Therefore, clipping.
Covered the basics above for sound issues.
Would love a response back.

8 times out of 10 it is the buffer setting that got messed up. I am willing to bet your buffer is currently way too low. Change the buffer to 256 samples and then see if it sounds better. If you want better latency step down the buffer to a lower value and test it again. When the buffer value gets too low your sound quality will start to diminish.

What are you talking abot being in the red? The CPU usage or the audio levels, and if so, where?

If it’s the CPU usage, the only thing you can really do is tweaking the computer setup (if you’re using windows, DPC latency may still be an issue) or turning up the audio buffer in Traktor.

If it’s audio levels, turning down Traktor’s master output (and turning off their crappy liimter) is the solution.

first make sure you are using the correct driver and traktor for the version of windows. older versions ran so slow on windows 10 because they changed asio and it did not like it one bit. Next you will need to setup the computer for asio otherwise you will have issues with playback.
Have you run the audio 6 test to look for packet droputs ? also dpc latency checker.
disable wifi.
set power to high performance.
set asio to background service.

All important steps.

After 2 years of fighting my Audio 10 i finally figured it out:

the individual decks in Traktor clip when gain is set to 0db (default).

Once i set the gain for each deck to -5db in Traktor (0db master gain), any sign of clipping, stuttering or other artifacts are gone.

Also: keylock screws up your sound quality on any setup afaik.

That’s it. Clipping on the default setting of their own software with their own hardware.
It is hilariously bad. Can’t wait for my SC5000’s to arrive. :smiley:

Hope this helps you save 2 years of pain, including several mail conversations with the professors at NI.

You can also turn down the master. On external mode, it applies that setting to every output.

I run mine at around -15 iirc. It might be lower. I set it so traktor’s autogain would put the tracks about where my analog mixer expects them.

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Using software autogain before going into an analog mixer, kinda beats the purpose of mixing analog, doesn’t it? If I mix on my Xone 92 I want to control gains on the mixer, not in the software.

And just trimming the master gain does not fix clipping of the individual channels. Nine out of ten times in Traktor the master isn’t clipping but the decks are. I tried all of that plus everything the NI tech guys threw at me, but it did not fix anything. Trimming software deck gains did.

[quote=“sevenkami, post:16, topic:71497, username:sevenkami”]
Using software autogain before going into an analog mixer, kinda beats the purpose of mixing analog, doesn’t it? If I mix on my Xone 92 I want to control gains on the mixer, not in the software.
[/quote]No. Why would it? If the mixer is getting the right voltage and you’re not amplifying noise, it literally does not matter.

You cannot clip individual channels inside traktor since they switched to floating point processing. The only things that can clip are the sound card outputs.

I’ll agree that NI’s recommendations are generally wrong, and I have literally no idea how they come up with them. A few years ago (version 2.6ish), you had to run the channels low to give the effects a proper level to work right, but they fixed that some time in the last couple years.

The problem with Trkator is that autogain (or default settings) run the audio all the way up to 0dBFS on the output (with fixed point math), which causes at least ISM distortion if not also just clipping the outputs. Turning down any of the gains in software (deck or master) fixes that, but the master gain applies to all decks.