I have posted my own thread on this as I was having some soundcloud probs, but actually seems I can jump on this one!
I got this message after uploading the same mix million times and getting some error message -
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Having checked out the last gang website it seems they act for Chromeo, which was the opening track on the mix. I’m guessing by putting the tracklisting when uploading the track soundcloud has a way of picking out certain artist names and rejecting stuff. I’m not expecting to hear from soundcloud in the near future. I’ve now slightly changed the MP3 file and going to try another upload as guessing they are now rejecting anything that is the same file I upload. I’m going to ditch the tracklisting and see what happens. But slightly annoying to say the least.
A tiny plug and I beg you please listen as I uploaded this mix about a million times, finally got it to work on good old mixcloud, the first track is ermmmm Unknown!
That makes me wonder how the legal situation on mix.dj is. Because every mix you upload there, must have a tracklist that includes the record labels for each track and once a mix is approved and online, you can purchase each track by clicking on the button on the tracklist.
So I wonder if this site is now save, because every mix literally works as promotion for the record labels or if its users might get into trouble sooner or later too.
I’m new to mixcloud but it claims they have a PRS license, meaning money gets distributed to the labels, I guess soundcloud doesnt work in the same way.
My mixes play on the radio, we have a PRS license. Wonder if that covers mixes after the fact? The big difference in mixcloud is that they don’t allow downloads.
I’m developing an unhealthy man crush on his music! Its getting to the point I’ll do something stupid like getting his face tattooed on my chest and change my name to Sonny in his honour!
hahahah, i was just pumped when i found out about him at the end of the summer. back in my early days (middleschool and highschool when i used to listen to hardcore and all of that before i found the light that is EDM) i used to love from first to last – sonnys old band when he was like 16 – so when i realized skrilly was really sonny moore i was like… “shit i know who that is already!”
soundcloud blocked one of my mixes. it was due to a track by the bag raiders/ universal music group ltd. that they stated was infringment man what crock of bs i got the track thru my record pool (paid for it )for the reason of playing it out and it was in a mixed set, the industry must really be hurting…u would think the exposure is something they want
When processing a file, they can determine if the song is one that belongs to a list of labels that want music yanked when it’s detected. Youtube does it, and it seems to be the same type of algorithm that Musicbrainz Picard uses to scan your music and find out missing track information comes from. That is, I don’t think it rests solely on tracklists.
Don’t forget:
Don’t speed on your way to the record store. You’re breaking the law.
Don’t get high and make a mix tape. You’re breaking the law.
Don’t drink alcohol at the next show you go to when you support an artist. You will be publicly intoxicated, or driving under the influence, and breaking the law.
You are not allowed to listen to an exact replica of an artist. You can only listen to a specified bitrate deemed appropriate by “them” and only on “their” devices. Otherwise, you’re breaking the law.
Fuck.
All.
Of.
That.
edit: and if it wasnt for youtube, torrent sites, mixtapes, bootlegs, then i guaran-goddamn-tee ya i would NEVER have gone to shows like:
afrojack
deadmau5
paul van dyk
rusko
fake blood
designer drugs
robbie rivera
sander kleinenberg
mark farina
the list goes on and on. also, they got their money each and every time, regardless of me having to drive upwards of 3 hours to get to the venue they decided on.
I tinkered with the file changed name, length etc, but soundcloud kept picking out the Chromeo track, so think they are analyzing somehow to pick out the tunes. Its a bit annoying.
I upload playlists for my tracks because I like to spread the word of good music. If someone hears a good track in the mix, they’ll need to know where to buy it from right? So now we’re meant to keep keep tracklists secret so they won’t get pulled. And noone knows what the tracks are. Yeah well done, record industry!
I wouldn’t spend the obscene amount of money I do now on music if I didn’t hear the tracks on podcasts. Same with a lot of DJs I reckon.
Small labels won’t be able to publicise their tracks 'cos nobody will hear them.
Actually said small labels will just go broke. If it ain’t on MTV or iTunes, with a big media campaign, then forget about it.
In fact, fuck it. If your mix has been pulled, chances are it contains mainstream bollocks. So it’s a good thing.
Small labels that enforce this will just be shooting themselves in the face.
Labels would do much better by insisting on links where you can buy the tracks in question, whether iTunes, Beatport, Vinyl etc… maximise the commercial opportunity, not minimize it. Dumb. Just dumb.
l-pizz, i agree with you. small labels will benefit from having tracks in podcasts. i bet if you ask each label for use, you’d get more yes than no. i havent heard no yet. what i have gotten is ‘tit for tat’ “sure you can use my track, can i get a gig in your town?” to which i reply, ‘thanks for the license, here is someone to call’.
all the labels that go out of their way to enforce their copyright usually end up looking bad, on blogs and boards (like we’ve seen above).
at the Billboard Magazine Dance Music Summit in the late 90s, there was a panel about tryng to make a ‘clearing house’ for tracks to be used on mix cds, from what i read, turned into a bitch fest, with nothing getting accomplished. (very similar to this blog post here)
Just to point out my mix was rejected because of Last Gang Records and the artists they act for can be found here
Which doesnt seem that mainstream. ALthough that said I believe they have got a fair amount of their artists stuff into commericial environment (computer games, adverts etc) but I still wouldnt personally class Chromeo or Boys Noize are being particularly mainstream bollocks. Which is what kinda makes it that bit more annoying for me. If I was sticking Britney’s last track up for download then fair enough, but being a dance music jock you always kinda rely on the whole we’re in it together kinda approach and I feel like this is a bit of a slap in the face.
What I don’t get is that didn’t soundcloud make a huge ass deal about their Creative Commons license? I could be wrong here but with a noncommercial or Attribution license you can distribute works as long as they are for noncommercial use, and last I checked you can’t sell your mixes off of soundcloud.
It’s things like this that make me think soundcloud may just be for tunes now, and mixcloud for…well…mixes.
