Stems

Stems

Hi all,

Just a quick one…

As you all maybe aware NI are bringing a new open source format to the djing world called “STEMS”

If you are not aware of Stems this is what NI say about them…

“A Stem file is an open, multi-channel audio file that contains a track split into four musical elements –bass, drums, vocals, and melody for example. With each element available independently, you can mix in ways that just weren’t possible until now.”

My question is??

Are Stems available to the general public and if so where can I obtain them from?

A simple Google search reveals the following.

Supposed to be some time either later this month or next that Stems will become available. Would be nice to get a firmer timeframe of the release, though.

Yhea i think they did not give us a precise date because they want to get it right in one try. If the Stems become available but there are virtually no artists on Beatport that offer them no one is going to start using them thus failing to create a big demand for stem files which would cause no more artist to release them.

I truly think it will go the way of remix decks, nobody really uses them.

Agree. NI and beatport are losing focus fast. They think they’re invincible and are not listening to their users advice.

This just showed up on Beatport https://pro.beatport.com/stems/about?utm_source=bp_facebook&awesm=awe.sm_aMP8j&utm_medium=social_post_ad_bp_main&utm_content=bp_landingpage&utm_campaign=stems2015

Mp3 = normal price
wav & AIFF - Premium price 9who knows why the fick)
Stems - stupid money price (eat me assholio )

im personally looking forward to just messing with the stem creation tool.

My whole question is whether producers will WANT to make stems for their fire tracks readily available as per them losing recognition for making that track and so on.

I mean, how long did it take most of us to realize Afrika Bambaataa was looping Kraftwerk (or that everyone else was looping Kraftwerk)

Also, why only 4 stems?! I mean I get the simplicity argument but why wouldn’t Beat Port just continue to sell Remix parts (as many stems as you want) and let the buyer crunch them down to their 4 selected tracks?

I’m open to it and interested in seeing the interface but I feel like adoption rates are going to be abysmal as people stand to be hesitant to just hand out their hard earned synth and basslines…

4 tracks aren’t enough why could it be much much higher and then it depends how how big it crunches the file size down. I can’t see it working with any of the music I use and make, proper techno, to much reverb and delays being sent to sends. The only thing I’d want is to get rid of vocals on some tracks , maybe.

Stupid idea. Why would I want to give you my individual multi-tracks or tell you exactly how I did any mix? Hell, I don’t even like having to put track names on DJ mixes. If it was a stock, I’d short the hell out of this idea. Is anyone selling NI insurance on this business venture, and can I hedge against it?

Bad product video and you can see it’s only for these shitty trance songs

I’m not sure this will take off.

If you’re a producer why would you want to give away your creations for someone to make a pants remix with it?

With all the elements of a track that make a decent song, how are cutting in and out 4 separate parts going to sound interesting? Most people will be mashing these up left, right and centre making a sonic mess that will sound boring after a few bars.

Why are they any different to buying a sample pack or sounds pack and using those?

Seems to be the general consensus…

Remember when beatport used to do remix contests?.. and sell the stems package with maybe 8 or 10 tracks?.. Feels like a rebranding of that but with a manufacturer behind it.

Trouble was, none of those songs were every anything I cared to do something with.

Has anyone gotten a hold of a proper stem track?.. are these just being handed around in closed circles to build hype videos? I’d like to see how the software interacts with them etc…

You’re one of those guys that loves to hide their amazing tracks. Oy vey. I’m sure producers would love to hear that.

Narcissist DJ.

I have one question is it possible to create stem file just with song and smpte code and send one channel with music to speakers and smpte code to resolume ?

such cringe.

Stems

4 stems playing on 4 channels is actually 16 different stuff to play with idk what’s not enough…lol