Stepping back

Stepping back

Well… After some thought I am deciding to step away from doing digital djing for the time being and looking into getting some cd decks and a mixer.

I was wondering if anyone here has tried the American Audio Radius 3000 and how good is it?

Same with the Numark NDX800

nb4 Pioneer rig suggestion.

The mixer I know I will get is the DDM4000

I’ll be selling my APC40 and sometime down the road getting an apc20

Anybody wanna try to talk me out of it?
Im just kinda tired of mixing on my laptop and I realized that alot of trance tracks I have dont do too well with cue hopping all over, maybe sometime cutting the breakdown and thats it XD

Do it!

Are you moving away from digital djing altogether? No laptop at all or using an external setup for a more traditional control surface?

Either way it’ll make you a more diverse DJ, there are CDJ’s in pretty much every club and youre better off knowing how to use them.

Instead of changing your setup, maybe you could try switching/expanding genre? Trance doesn’t exactly seem like an exciting genre to mix to me, but I could be wrong.

Just an idea but Maby instead find a middle point that will let u have the best of both worlds

^ timecode,

plus american audio products are terrible

+1

I’ve heard good times about the reloop rmp line, though I’m annoyed the rmp1 has CD tray rather than a slot thingy.

I know there’s a few people on this forum who own the american audio, you might get lucky and attract their attention.

Timecode with CDJs seems a bit silly. It’s a nice little addition but the main advantage of a DVS is that you don’t have to buy vinyl. You’re using CDJs. You don’t have to buy vinyl. Just use usb sticks and burn some CDs.

Honestly though I’d get more expensive CDJs and a cheaper 2 channel mixer (you planning to get 4 CDJs? the behringer wont last long enough for the whole keeping future options open argument to work)

My (heavily opinionated) 2cents

Ive heard good things about the ddm4000, personally I went with ecler because I dont need all the midi features. Just a strong mixer

To the OP, if you plan on ditching the laptop altogether there really isnt much point in getting the behringer as you wont use all the midi stuff and I havent heard rave reviews of the effects.
You might be better off going for a second hand pioneer/vestax/allen & heath/ecler.

I got a second hand pioneer 600 dirt cheap, about the same as a ddm4k is used,
and the reloop rmp2 cdjs are excellent, just gona be hard if you want to sell again

if your buying stuff for a shot of cdjs and are likely to sell again, get second hand pioneers, slightly more expensive, 100x easier to resell

That is a good point! I always neglect that since I only ever buy gear intending it to break or last me forever.

Just noticed you had a no @ a pioneer rig, why not? you dont have to go for the 900 setup,

the setup i use, i know chriswoods uses as well, and probably a few more here use the set up as well because its semi-standard, djm600 and cdj800 cdjs’ i picked the whole lot up for around £900, and could sell it all over again for around the same price because they hold their value

After a quick ebay look, there were no used re-loops, only brand new, which cost more than i paid for my cdjs

The American Audio Radius 3000, was only available as new, and again, cost the same as my cdjs did second hand.
and unless you can ship them off to some unsuspecting mate, i bet if we were to sell both our rigs mine would be sold weeks before yours, and i would get 90% minimum of my money back.
Pioneers retail expensive because they are known as the industry standard. their decks from 4/5 years ago match any of your lower brands newest ones

my 2p.

It does depend largely on how you value your time and how safe you want to play it. Would you rather spend the time saving and increasing your budget/looking for a steal or would you rather buy it now and either risk getting a poor deal or a lower quality piece of kit? Are you willing to risk receiving damaged gear or being ripped off or do you really want that shiny new gear with a warranty? Now I know with ebay and the like generally you’re in a fairly safe place but you will end up having to pay for shipping and developing a bit of a headache from all the fuss.

I like looking for bargins, it doesn’t really matter if it’s the industry standard or not. Hey, make saved searches for all the different CDJs you’re interested in on ebay, turn on email notifications, add the auctions to your watch list and install the ebay extension on your browser. Watch it until you see something you’re happy with.

I’ve been doing this for a while purely out of interest and I’ve seen the same turntable go for £320 and £45 in the same month. Gutted I didn’t spot the £45 one end.

get a numark m6. its 4channels with lots of features. really affordable too

Loads of features? It has 4 channels, 2 mic channels, a crappy soundcard and the ability to headphone cue. Loads of features…

Planning to buy 4 CDJs and 2 mics?

I’d say the numark m2 is a better idea if you want something like that. Under half the price and basically the same thing with only 2 channels.

Sorry for my absence I was tired as hell XD

No Im not leaving the laptop alone and not selling my audio2dj those would be integrated into the setup.

I’ll look into used CDJs I just rmember the last time I looked them up they all ran for the retail new price =_=

Also Pioneer does also have problems every now and then still.

Also surprised that people only commented on the American Audio but not the Numark.

what about an s4?

I felt the same as you a few months ago and wanted to go the traditional route, but then I just setup the s4 as close to a cdj setup as possible:

Sync off
Snap and Quant off
Transport sections are down to one line of info
no mixer controls showing on the screen (global is also off)

This is all under the impression that you are using TP2, and as you stated above you are going to keep the laptop in the setup? Of course you’d be missing the “feel” of a cdj, but I think its a nice mid ground.

Just a thought…

Hmm there is always that…

i just got rid of my S4 and my VCI-100.

I ended up with two CDJ’s, a DJM 800 and a Serato box.

It feels much more natural and enjoyable to me. Not as many bells, whilstles, super FX, magic combos, etc. but for me, I enjoy it more. Do it.

shrugs I’ve seen this opinion before and I still don’t get it. I used to burn 6 - 12+ CD’s a week (and 2 copies of each, because I’d do 8 tracks per disc and might want to go from one track on the disc to another particularly given that all the tracks on a single disc were in the same-ish key).

The time I’ve saved in not having to do this (ignoring the actual cost of the CD-R’s, which mounts up over time) has more than compensated for the cost of TSP.

Every minute I spend not burning a CD is a minute I can spend checking out new tunes, or playing tunes, or snorting coke off a hooker’s back. Which is, after all, what DJing is all about.