i just loaded up TP on my desktop for now to mess with it before upgrading my TS on my laptop.
for the life of me, i cannot get this sync thing down. even when my tracks are gridded (which i also hate - warping in ableton is much better), ill play one deck & the other deck either wont light up the sync button when pressed or itll half light up (diagonally across).
i cannot for the life of me get this thing to work & i know im doing something wrong.
can someone talk me thru this as im totally new to syncing in TP & ive read the manual with no help. & all the douchebags on the NI forums just reply with smartass, sarcastic comments like they always do.
Not sure about your problem precisely, but my bet is go check out Traktor manual section called Beatgrids - with precisely set and BPMed beatgrids is syncing just a summer breeze.
it involves learning and understanding a lot, so be prepared
Oh, I haven’t upgraded to 1.1.1. Fair enough then, ignore what I said.
If that is supposed to happen then I would echo the above and check the grids to make sure the lines line up with the beats. If it’s auto-gridding then I’d manually grid the tracks.
manually gridding tracks is really essential (depends on what type of music you play - try the autogridding with drum&bass tracks and you’ll see why it’s important to manually grid them )…
also be sure that you have you master clock in auto mode - then hit play on the first track and make sure the master button lights up, then hit sync on the track you want to bring in and finally hit play on that track.
this should get you where you want - if sync is half lit then this means that this track is the master track right now, but if you hit stop then the other track gets the master track and the half lit sync means that the track will then get synced to the other one…
huh, i think i explained that one a little bit confusing…
this is completely brutal to me. ive got it on auto mode. sometimes i throw in a track & the other track wont even sync. no mater what i do, the light will not go onto sync.
sometimes it goes half…sometimes it works right. but there seems to be no rationality to it…it literally seems to be random.
things like this make me wonder why i even bothered with TP to be honest. i really wanna use it but why is it this damn complicated to mix in sync? ableton does it in 2 seconds.
so there is no way to have it always have the non-playing decks sync all the time? am i understanding this right? u have to hit something on a midi controller or hit sync with the mouse everytime?
wouldnt the master be whats playing out? why would that be deck A necessarily?
what i mean is why cant TP know which deck is playing, know that your playing without cdjs/TT’s & know to keep any deck thats not playing in sync mode? isnt there a switch or button that does this?
i think dvls didn’t refer to master as the master signal but to master as the master deck. at syncing you’ll always have a master and a slave deck (the slave gets syncd to the master) unless you are using the master clock.
and it is possible to always have the other deck syncd - just hit play on one deck (it’s getting the master deck then) and hit sync on the other deck and also hit sync on the master deck. then the sync at the master deck gets half lit indicating that if this deck stops then the other deck gets the master and this deck gets syncd.
as a sidenote - this only works on traktor pro 1.1.1, not on prior versions.
there must be something wrong with my version. cause when i hit sync on the master which makes it half lit, i then hit sync on deck 2 & the pitch slider moves all the way to -8% making the track super slow.
in fact, im reading horror story after horror story about TP. ive seen dubfire just had his fail & had to play off cds. im also hearing how hawtin etc wont upgrade due to its instabilty.
so maybe u can help. i currently have TS installed on my macbook (which runs great) but id like to up to traktor 3 so i can sync & play off cdjs.
but since u cant upgrade anymore, i was wondering what u guys would suggest. where can i get traktor 3?
I did some quick testing with just a mouse and tpro 1.1.1. I had Auto mode on and I pressed the sync button on in every deck. Then I loaded tracks and played and stopped them and traktor seemed to keep everything in sync. It changed the master deck to one of the decks that was still playing and changed that deck’s sync button to half lit one. So the thing you are trying to do should be doable with tpro.
I hope you’ve noticed that the sync gets disabled if you scroll the track in vinyl mode.
And if you use 4 decks I think it might be better to use the internal master clock mode and sync all tracks to that master clock, not to master deck.
Guys, you’re making things too complicated. All you need to do is set the clock to auto, have solid beatgrids, and you’re good. The missing link here is that TPro will disengage sync, if you A) nudge/pitchbend a synced track, B) turn off vinyl mode and scroll around, C) Basically do anything that pushes the synced beatgrid lines away from each other - an example could be jumping to a cue with quantize turned off - there’s basically a zillion things you can do to break sync. Knowing what those things are will allow you to keep everything synced all the time. There’s nothing to worry about with the diagonal slash through the sync tab, just check the manual to see what it means.
-Now, just as a side note, I’ve found that keeping sync on all the time is nearly always unnecessary. With precise grids, you can set the sync button to “hold”, simply flash the incoming track once to sync tempo/align phase, and that’s it. I only use sync in a toggle mode if I’m playing a track that has multiple grid markers that restart the grid. In this case it’s essential that sync is toggled on when the play marker passes over the grid markers.
Something else to keep in mind is, changes on the master deck will also make changes on synced decks (watch the tempo sliders to see what I mean.) If you’re trying to hit sync and the track’s tempo is jumping all the way to 8%, what’s going on is that either the tempos of the tracks are too far apart to sync properly, or one or both have incorrect tempos/beatgrids set.
having synced turned on all the time really is unnecessary… unless you are doing cue juggling - not the controllerism way ean does but the “normal” way to jump around the track - then it’s essential, otherwise the quantize wouldn’t work and if you hit the cue button slightly off time then this will break the nice sync between your tracks…
i personally prefer having sync turned on all the time, i think it comes down to what you want to do and what’s your taste, but having sync turned on means theres less to think about when mixing…
