Alright I find myself being very frustrated lately trying to figure out how to do this mix I have in my head. In my mind it must be the simplest thing to do but I am finding myself going in 3 programs to get to a point where.. well I am just going nowhere.
I have a sample from a song, I want to overlap it to another song and get control on the second one such as effects etc..
the tempo from the sample has to be slightly tweaked.. and I want to mix multiple samples from this.. now I come from a video editing background and perhaps my thinking is wrong.. but cant I find a program that will let me do all this
and keyframe my effects values and other such things.. where I can paste clips along a timeline and mix in this way?
Now I might have this all wrong and maybe this is not at all how one goes about doing this.. but then how am I supposed to do mashups and multiple mixes at same time? perhaps you can all point me to either a program that can do this.. or a simple easy tutorial for basics..
The programs I have uselessly spent money on purchasing so far with no success are FL studio (wich wont let me pause in the middle of a sample then hit play again cause its like it has to hit the begining to start!?) and Traktor wich is working great! if only i could keyframe effects along a timeline and then tell it to automatically load stuff and play it when it hits a certain point..
At this point I feel like using Adobe Premiere to mix this wich would be completly ridiculous and probably wouldnt get as good results with less options.
Thank you for your help guys and sorry for the long post
i bet a lot of people are laughing right now
Keyframing stuff really takes away a part of what makes it a live act if you ask me, using it sparingly is alright. Like Dummy clips in Ableton can let you do things you wouldnt be able to do otherwise.
Youtube the hell out of Ableton to get a handle on it.
Also yes FL studio can do that sample thing, load the sample up in a Fruity Scratcher FL studio is an awesome program and was sooooooooo not a waste of money. Even if you get into Ableton you can still copy all of your VST effects over you got with FL studio. The plugins you get with FL Studio alone make it a worth while purchase, let along the fact you get a whole friggen DAW for much much less than the competition. So dont feel bad about your investment at all
What makes Ableton better than FL studio is that Ableton is better designed for playing live than FL studio. That said Image line will improve the live functionality in time, but you hardly want to sit around waiting for that.
Piping your audio from Traktor to Ableton really provides the most flexibility, its a bit of a pain in the butt to set up at first but is well worth the effort.
HOT DIGGITY DARN!
why wasnt i thrown into ableton to start with? been lookin at the sites videos all evening and this is exactly what i wanted its as if they wrote this sofware for me!(im kidding im kidding)
wow a linear editor just like Final cut or Premiere THANK YOU ABLETON!
oh and yeah I am happy with the cool sounds I can come up with in FL just couldnt figure out how to mix them with songs and such in a way that I could comprehend.. perhaps cause i am retarted dj-ingly speaking but this one seems to do exactly what I need it to.
And best news of all… Ableton 6 came free with my Axiom
lets just hope that 6 can do all the cool stuff I see on the videos of 7 or part of them
Yeah thats new slicer in FL is pretty decent, you get a lifetime of free updates too with that software so over time you will get more vst’s that you can use in Ableton as are made available.
The best thing about FL studio though is soundgoodizer
Thats good advice buying a book like this would help out a lot. Going from the write up on the amazon page it looks to be a pretty decent one too, i wouldn’t mind giving it a read myself actually
actually after installing it last night..(and turning my appartment upside down looking for that green paper with the serial number for authorization) they offered free upgrade to 7
but it is Lite edition.. and after mucking about.. i couldnt seem to find a spot to throw any mp3 into any kind of timeline..guess its more video tutorials for me tonight.. im skippin steps I think here
And yeah FL is great for beatmakin I find, the link to controller options are great
so that u can set up funky setups
tried both.. the weird thing too is that i drop it in (even tho its giving me a circle with diagonal line.. meaning im not supposed to be able to) and! (even tho the explorer should only be displaying files that I CAN drop into the program) well it does nothing.. and then! I can go in edit and UNDO my nothingness hahaha
made me laugh but must be somthing stupid im not doing right..
i was thinking could it be the codec from the mp3? i cut it from a full song and spat it out as an mp3.. though ableton says it takes em.. perhaps it picky about the compression or codec?
i use logic for stuff like that, abletons time warp helps alot for beginners. If your a video editor you should try soundtrack pro it should be able to what you want as well if your not using midi controllers and stuff
You might want to try a different file, or maybe even file format.
I sometimes too have a defective mp3, which also allows me to drop it in from the file explorer.
Ableton analyses the file, but comes back with nothing, a bar with no waveform in it.
Sometimes it does this when it cannot find the proper location of the file.
You could try to drop your MP3s in another(shorter) folder?
It could be a factor of not having the correct codec, or maybe just try to reinstall Ableton?
FL studio is an awesome program and was sooooooooo not a waste of money. Even if you get into Ableton you can still copy all of your VST effects over you got with FL studio. The plugins you get with FL Studio alone make it a worth while purchase, let along the fact you get a whole friggen DAW for much much less than the competition. So dont feel bad about your investment at all 
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