TSP Collection duplicated after starting S4

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TSP Collection duplicated after starting S4

I recently installed Traktor S4 and didnt use the import function on first run. I did the following:

  • Renamed my TSP Traktor root folder to Traktor.tsp, let S4 create a new Traktor root folder in the same dir
  • Renamed the new Traktor folder to Traktor.s4 and my Traktor.tsp folder back to Traktor
  • Copied the Samples dir from Traktor.s4 to the Traktor folder
  • Started S4

All was fine, all my tracks were there with the grids and cues as Id defined in TSP, thought that the job was a gud un.

On restarting S4 (I have the import music folders at startup option set) it has imported all the tracks again, and duplicated my collection :confused:

I have tried copying and renaming the most recent collection.nml file from the Backup folder into the Traktor root dir to no avail. I also now have a Traktor\Backup\Collection dir and I have tried loading the last backup file from the time when the collection wasnt duplicated also to no avail.

I know I should have used the import function, but I have read a few posts of ppl wanting to revert back to TSP as there is some functionality that isnt in S4 so I didnt want to burn my bridges.

Anyone any ideas on how I can get back to where I was, and also if its possible to have the collection so that I can leave both versions installed for the time being until I make my mind up which I want to go ahead with?

TIA,
Jon-G

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uninstall S4, delete the collections and reinstall S4 and do the import option this time. I would back up everything in both collections just in case.

You can use both softwares at the same time and I’ve seen a few people that have tried using the same collection for both, but I’m not real sure of long term results.

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Hey thanks for the prompt reply!
Is there not a firstrun=0 or similar setting in a config file somewhere that you know of that can make S4 prompt to import again.

Ive fired TSP back up and even after restoring the nml file to a backup its now showing double the amount of tracks the collection.

Do you know which dir S4 writes its backups to and which are the TSP ones?

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I cannot, for the life of me understand why you did any of that dude.
Where on earth did you get that advice?

TSP and S4 are totally 100% independent of each other and use totally different directories.

You dont need to do anything to use TSP and S4 separately on the same machine in fact you can use both at the same time !!!

Take a deep breath and slow down comrade…

You should do what photo says and delete S4 and start again but you should get TSP back to shape before installing S4 again.

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I figured it safer to do that as a test as Traktor only commits changes on shutdown afaik. If it had looked like it wasnt going to work I would have ended the task rather than shut it down gracefully, but like I said, on the first start it read my collection perfectly!

So if I get TSP squared away and run the import tool from S4 following a fresh install, it will build its own collection.nml/stripes/transient folders and leave all the TSP stuff intact?

I guess then that any grids/cues I setup in either app will require doing again with the other app?

Please can you confirm for me that the Backup\Collection\ is S4’s backup directory whereas TSP writes the .nml files straight into Backup?

TIA
Jon-G

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When the import is done everything in S4 will be as it was in TSP that includes cues, grids, everything.

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OK, so I got TSP reading the collection again, but found that an uninstall/reinstall of S4 didnt prompt to run the import wizard on first run, so there must be some files that the installer isnt removing on uninstall. I tried using the Import another collection option from the context menu for the Collection in the file browser in S4, which worked. But when prompted which data to use (file or collection), I selected Collection and S4 wrote out alot of tags to the mps. Now nearly all of the files show as missing strip when I run the consistency check :S

Any ideas anyone?

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Delete the Collection.nml in S4 and start again.
This time choose to read tags from Files and your S4 tracks will be good to go.

Export your tsi from TSP and import it to S4 and all your Favourites etc will be there as well.