Urgent ableton question

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Urgent ableton question

Yo yo!

I’m freaking out, this should be easy I think.

I’m trying to do a live ableton set with MPD32 and launchpad on saturday.

It’s going swell except, i’d really like the following functionality and I’m having a complete brain block.

Press a Midi button to add 1 BPM to the tempo

Press a Midi button to mius 1 BPM from the tempo.

That is all, is this possible?

Lots of love,

RJ

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can you map to the tempo nudge up and down? Sorry if i missed scope of question.

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Thanks man, but tempo nudge is only temporary, like touch the deck of a turntable, or pushing it slighty.

I’ve got those set up already to sync with decks.

I want to just slowly nudge up the project tempo over the course of a song.

Cheers,

RJ

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not too sure,
But u could map one of the knobs on the mpd 32 to the master tempo :slight_smile:

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Unfortunatley ableton is going to screw you on the two button pitch/bpm controll.
The only way you can controll BPM is with a slider / knob since it will only allow you to map one controll to the master bpm.

As much as ableton rocks I am not to stoked on some of the internal controll mappings. I wannted to map a button to be a gatted effect but for the life of me I could not figure it out.

if anyone know how thats done I would love to know!

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I’m assuming you want to put the knob in increments of one because you want finer tuning of tempo? If you map a knob on the MPD32 to tempo, you can change the parameters of that knob to meet a certain range (i.e. 120-140bpm) or change the sensitivity of how fast you turn the knob to change tempo. Another way to change tempo in a live scenario would be using scene launches.

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yeah basically I want really fine tuning.

How do you change tempo with scene launch?

Rj

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on the right hand side where you have your scene triggers, right click on the scene launch and choose “set tempo”

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ALSO! if you’re doing some crazy tempo change (i.e. dubstep to house) I throw a really cool spinback/echo clip on the scene with the tempo change! Don’t overuse it but they’ll go nuts.

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I’ve been working on a max for live patch to do this for you all morning. And i’m working out the kinks right now. But i realized that i should ask… Do you have Max for Live???

The only problem, which i could probably fix, is that it goes up and down by 1.1 bpm’s.

If you don’t have max for live i might be able to work out a patch that works in max runtime, which i believe is free.

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Well my device is done if you would like to try it.

The Device on Maxforlive.com

Mediafire.com Download

Let me know what you think, as this is my first device.

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Without M4L this is the best way to do it. Make sure to set the knob to only work within a certain range. 120 to 140 is a good place to start if you’re doing fairly standard EDM.

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str8updrew you are the mother flippin MAN. But I don’t have max for live. It looks fricken perfect so might have to find some sorta way of scrapin the funds together for it!

Thank you so much for taking the time though! It’s a fine fine piece of work for your first patch!

Much love,

RJ

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I do something similair with midi clips and midi loopback. It’s not perfect, but works/sounds fine as long as you aren’t using re-pitch (in which case the pitch shifts become rather audible/glitchy)

Posted this on the aldj forum, enjoy. :wink:

Useful if you don’t have an endless encoder for tempo on your controller, and don’t want to be locked to a fixed range of a fader.

Here’s the solution;

Make a midi track,
route it back to live via the IAC drive (or midiyoke on pc i guess),
create two clips,
open up the envelopes for midi CCs on the clips (i used cc8),
set the first 16th to 70 and the rest of the clip to 64 for one clip, and the other you do the same but set the first 16th to 58 (the more you deviate from 64 the faster the bpm will change),
set launch mode to repeat, quantization to 1/16th
launch one of the clips,
open midi map mode, click the fine tempo field to map it,
stop the transport (hit space),
change the midi mode relative (lin. BinOffset),
exit midi map mode,
deactivate the loops on your clips (or move them so they don’t contain the first 16th of the bar),
map buttons on your controller (or your keyboard) to the clips you made.

Try it, adjust the value of the first 16th of your clip to modify how fast the bpm changes.

Success.

Adding acceleration shouldn’t be too hard by making a longer clip and using gate instead of repeat, and slowly ramping up the speed of the change.