VCI 100 - 14 Bit Firmware upgrade??
Does anyone know if and when the 14 bit firmware upgrade will be available for the VCI-100??
From what I’ve read around here, if it happens at all, it’s going to be a while. IIRC, Vestax isn’t releasing it themselves officially, so DJTT people would have to code it and that’s not easy.
In short, I wouldn’t hold your breath.
Thats anoying we want it now!
Can anyone else shed some light on this? Will TT’s new firmware cater for 14bit midi - at least on the job wheels and faders?
I understand it’s all in the firmware, not in the hardware - so it is possible…
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I think DvlsAdvct has shone all the light there is, unfortunately.
I was hoping someone is going to turn around and say ‘yep, it’s in the pipeline!’
In my opinion it’s now the 100’s greatest downfall. Much of the similarly priced competition is now operating 14bit midi as far as I’m aware
Yeah, it’s the 100’s greatest downfall. And if you are going to use a midi controller for scratching and really serious manual beatmatching, then get the VCI-300. If not, then get the VCI-100. shrug What similarly priced competition is running 14-bit MIDI jogs, though?
Yeah i am dissappointed with the Jog wheels on the VCI 100. If the 300 had more knobs id swap in a heartbeat but i love the rest of the VCI 100 and i couldnt be arse with that FX control crap for the 300 so i guess ill hang out for the FW upgrade.
Seriously Vestax are dicks. They clearly arent selling many 300s (im just assuming) so why dont they update the best seller VCI 100 and sell even more of the buggers.
Its not rocket science.
Even upping it to 10-bit (isnt that the actual max) would be a huge help.
Reloop are using 14 bit I believe - certainly on pitch, not sure about jogs actually?? It’s a nice controller.
I had the 300 before and it was a lot more responsive than the 100 - but lack of customisation possibilities and simplicity of Serato made me swap for the 100. I love the 100, don’t get me wrong, just would like to see 14bit midi as I am aware it’s possible using the original hardware.
Oh, don’t get me wrong, I’d LOVE to see 14-bit. My guess is Vestax’s next VCI will have it with the customization of the 300. Not really my guess but my hope. I’d be all up on that for a controller with no internal sound card set up like the 100.
It is possible, but I doubt it’s going to happen
After playing with a VCI-300 and purchasing a NS7, I feel 14-bit midi really is a deal breaker. I never really knew what I was missing out on. It’s nice to be able to adjust pitch down to .01. =)
I just use my jog wheels for pitch and I get a 0.01 also. shrug I don’t scratch, though, and that’s where the real deal breaker would be fore me.
Am I missing something?
after reading about some 14-bit stuff, I became confused. What I understand the following to say is that by having on pot send two CC values, you can acheive 14 bit resolution by interpolating the two 10 bit CC’s. Hence, any Pot, slider, or Jogg could be manipulated through a translator to send 14-bit data. Is this correct, and if so, why the hell don’t we just run all the VCI info through Bomes, and make the entire thing 14-bit?
Here’s my reference
this harks to my club standard midi controller question i posted… i feel that someone could create a killer midi controller right now, with the 14bit messages and the customization we require, they’d make a mint… i hope vestax are onto it
I still think something like this wouldn’t be a standard, just what I’d want 
but I understand where you’re coming from, and I hope Vestax are onto it as well.
As for 14-bit MIDI and how to do it, I’m going to have to let someone FAR more experienced in MIDI programming to explain this. I don’t think it is as simple as sending two messages at once, but there’s a LOT of complicate math involved. I know that to decode a 14-bit message in Bomes to a 7 bit message, for example if software doesn’t recognize 14-bit midi on jog wheels, requires a weird formula in the rules.
Does anyone want to buy my UNUSED firmware upgrade kit? I bought it thinking that 14-bit was coming relatively soon 
I still haven’t been able to find a decent answer to this, but on the good side, I found out that the padKONTROL is able to send out 14 bit messages from the knobs and x/y pad
14bit really is the way forward. From owning to 300 for a short while, I don’t think you need to be a scratch DJ to appreciate the benefits. I hope someone somewhere is beavering away on a 14bit firmware. I’m holding tight!
I’m sure Vestax are already well into development for the next ‘100’, but I don’t think it will be on the market for some time!
If it was that easy people would be doing it allready, that is just how midi devices send 14 bit messages while conforming to the midi standard.
The VCI-100 only has 10 bit ADC so 10 Bit is the max possible for pots & faders, however this is 8 times its current resolution so I dont think anybody would actually be able to tell the difference between 10 and 14.
Also I assume most likely every device out there which claims 14 bit resolution on the pitch faders is in reality 10 bit sending 14 bit messages, most micro only have 10 bit ADC’s.
I really would not hold your breath for hi-def midi on the VCI peeps, vestax seem to have convinced themselves it would eat into the 300’s market, otherwise we would have seen it allready.
Call me a nublet but what exactly are the advantages of 14bit over whatever the 100 uses?
Is it just more fidelity with knobs and stuff?