Vestax vci 100 or Traktor S4

Basically if a tunes good I want to hear it and I want my crowd to hear it. Mixing in one other wicked tune into that last wicked tune will always be enough to create proper energy on the dance floor.

No disrespect, but even the Ean and Shifty vids on the S4 sound wack to me.

but, the skillz… the skillz!!

saying that i had a minor whinge on facebook about how alot of mixing occurs now…

at the same time i’m quite a bit guilty of running 3 decks at the same time :open_mouth:

Sometimes even mixing is too much, rather just let a tune play out and drop the next one :slight_smile:

depends what you’re playing to though

For sure…

Obviously 125BPM house is unacceptable not to mix. But if a tunes not good enough in it’s own right that it needs another two whole tunes laid on top of it then it’s probably not worth playing.

Amen breadbin …

i’m usually layering sections from different tunes when i do that. although with dnb i tend to tread the thin line of ‘long transition’ and ‘double drop’

Tell that to all those mashup producers out there. People eat that shit up. Alot of the times you might take certain parts from different songs you like and make 3 decent songs into one very good one (not necessarily playing one on TOP of the other but transitioning in and out of different parts of each song) using 3 channels to keep each track playing so you can cue to different spots. Some people enjoy the frenetic mixing and matching of songs. I hardly use 3 decks but there is plenty of time when mashing up two songs or mixing an acapella over another track, where I have to transition from a previous track and want to keep the energy up, that I am forced to use 3 decks.

I mean essentially what you’re saying is you shouldn’t remix a song because it will come out of the producers studio either good or not good and that’s that… Not that I don’t like to go out and let the DJ play a song out to the end occasionally but it gets to the point where you might as well have just plugged an ipod into some speakers and chosen tracks the whole night.

all djs can be replaced by ipods…

I for one welcome the coming of our robot overlords.

hence my avatar

I love mashups, i love creating a completely different tune from a variety of tunes. Just sampling a bass line here an accapela there.

I mean most of what I do is probably only good for my own ears but loads of fun never the less.

right now i got an S4 but if i were asked to buy one now and having to choose between the S4 or the NS6 I’d have a hard time deciding

S4 = awesome software integration
NS6 = awesome hardware, nice full pitch sliders, nice big platters, can be used as normal mixer
vci100 - outdated, out of the question

just my two cents :slight_smile:

If I knew how much $ I was gonna spend eventually I would have bought a Denon X1600, 2 Technics 1200s (used), and traktor scratch.

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have to agree to an extent, but it still gets the job done

Same here. I def. respect the skill that it takes to come up with some routines, but sometimes less is more and too much is too much.

I hear what Frank is saying, and I think it takes some very special talent to play a 4 track set like Hawtin does. I’ve been to plenty of parties here in Miami wth headliners (Sharam, Avicci, Roger Sanchez, Pete Tong, Morillo, etc.) and many of the sets are just great song selection with perfect transitions.

The mashups, remixes have their place in a set…and many times I see them played out after they’ve been produced in the studio. I genuinely think the crowd cares more about a great continuous vibe than a routine like Ean’s or Shiftee’s all night long. While it’s a great expression of what the tool is capable of, it doesnt really translate over to a good night of music and partying. Same goes for the over use of effects.

Having said that. I’m all for dropping an acapella over a track and transitioning to another one. Simple remix :slight_smile:

For me the VCI-100 SE is a completely unique tool. It’s hard to call it outdated because there’s no controller that comes premapped with it’s specific functionality and overlay.

I don’t want lots of knobs and buttons to control every parameter of fx. I want super knobs and buttons mapped intuitively to my controller.

At the end of the day, it’s running the same software as the S4 so to the dancefloor ear, it’s exactly the same.

I’m not suggesting if I was buying a set up from scratch now I wouldn’t get an S4, i probably would. I’d still not use all 4 decks and would map some choice super knobs and buttons to do what the VCI-100 SE mapping does.

But i’d miss my VCI-100 SE arcade cause it does everything and more already that i’d want it to do.

The buttons on the S4 are horrid IMO. I spend 90% of the time using the cue button and I love that they are arcade buttons on my controller.

I know one day I may need to replace my VCI SE arcade and I’m dreading it…

You guys seem to love the VCI 100 se…can you help me out on my thread before I make my decision tonight… http://www.djtechtools.com/forum/showthread.php?p=295216#post295216

Thanks in advance
Dom