what "type" volumeslider vci

what “type” volumeslider vci

Does anyone know what type of volume slider is in the VCI,
and where to get it?

The only thing you have to keep in mind is that it has to be a VCA fader. It should have the same length and a similar height so that it fits in the vci-100.
I’ve tried the Pro X Fade and it would work as a line fader in the vci-100 too.

I don’t know if there is a way to get the original line faders. But anyways, the original ones are a bit stiff for my likings. So maybe you can find others that are actually better than the originals.

Cheers for that into Paddy, i didnt realise they could also be used as line faders.

Thank you for your response.
But What exactly is a VCA-Fader?

VCA faders, in analog mixers for example, have another principle to work than older faders. They do not manipulate the sound directly. In older mixers the sound would go trough the crossfader directly. VCA faders only send ‘their position’ to an amplifier section of the mixer, which will then affect the volume relation between two or more decks.

In the case of the VCI-100, the CPU of the device is the amplifier section, like in the analog mixer, which receives the signal of the crossfader and converts it from an analog signal to midi data. And the line faders work the same way as the crossfader.

thank you Paddy for explaining that to me

I opened up my vci and took out the volume slider,
It seems to be an “Alpha” made in Taiwan.
Lenght of the Housing is apr. 87mm.
and the lenght that it slides is 72mm.

If I replace the slider with a 100mm fader (of course I make more room
for it),Do I have then a smoother volume control because the fader has a
longer way?

From what I understand, VCA = Voltage Controlled Amplifier, but Paddy’s description is right on. Basically, the fader presents a resistance to an amplifier, which controls the amount of audio it lets through. VCA’s were primarily implemented to allow curve control for scratch dj’s.

However, you can put any fader into the VCI-100 you want, so long as it matches the resistance of the fader in the VCI-100 (and you can physically fit it in).

But since you are interested in the ‘stiffness’ of the fader, its possible that the stiffness is a result of the lubricants used in the fader itself. If you open up the fader and strip down the lubricants with a cleaner, you can apply a more appropriate lubricant to the rails of the fader and the PCB.

I was only investigating what sort of fader I could put in the vci,
but anyways thanks for reply..

so finally

which resistence does the pitchfader and the crossfader have??
where can i get that information?
greetings

Use a multi-meter, you should really buy one if you are considering any electronics work.

yeah

maybe that’s the only way to find out about that..
a circuit diagramm would be useful as well :wink:
well, a false resisitsence could damage the cpu of the device.. huh
but isn’t there any simple fader, which is a bit longer as the built-in fader and which would fit (not phy. of course!) ?
any suggestions?

Here is a link to the manfacturer (Alpha Taiwan) of the sliders in the VCI

http://www.taiwanalpha.com/english/p_e_105.htm

thank you

thy very much!
This does make everything a bit easier :wink:

I would really like to change the pitch faders to one’s without an indent. Anyone tried this?

volume sliders vci

I added one volumefader in my mod.
Here is a link to the manfacturer (Alpha Taiwan) of the Volume sliders in the VCI
http://www.taiwanalpha.com/english/p_e_105.htm
But you can’t get them anywhere.
For replacement I can highly recommend this one;PTE60-151B-103B2 from Bourns.
It has the same lever as the vestax’.(lever end style ‘B’)
and all specs are similar.(mounting holes etc.)
http://nl.mouser.com/Search/ProductD...E60-151B-103B2

Cool..what do you mean by this? Do you mean faders are different on
the VCI-100B?
Are they easy to change? I want to change the pitch the most as hate the indent. I want to order the exact slider style that is on my VCI-300..they are smooth as butter.. I am no soldering expert, but hardest part will be where to solder the right charges for connections unless the ports are the same.

Let me know if you upgrade the pitch faders and how they work? I love your blue led work too..Love to try this, but maybe was hard and risky?

No,faders are the same on vci.I was referring to the shape and lenght of the
lever.otherwise the knob wont fit.

I know the sizes are different ..just want that smooth feel.
I wonder if these Bourne Sliders have the same connections areas than the ones that are on there now…so it would be an easy change.Like same power, etc..