X1 is still the best controller on the market.
that statement is so stupid
there is no best controller, theres a balance that depends on preferences
I require proof 
Well, thanks for the respectful reply.
All-in-one controllers are cheaper than an x1-soundcard-mixer set up. It’s also easier to learn to beatmatch on the former.
These are literally the only two advantages of all-in-one controllers over the x1.
what about the CMD range? or reloop contour? there are more modular ones out there, and they many more advantages
I think its just because some of the more desirable controllers that have come out recently have been Serato based. Lots of people would love to see a Traktor version of the new Pioneer controllers & the NS711. And lots of people would like to see more mixers certified. People like new shiny equipment. I won’t be changing to Serato but i do like a lot of the new controllers that are serato based.
The loop counters on the X1 is a massive advantage. Also, since it was made by NI, it has a more native (pun unintended) connection with Traktor which may not be apparent now, but I can assure you NI do think of their controllers when they update their software.
P.S. I kind of misread and thought you meant NI would have to bring out a new controller to keep up, so my bad on this, but I still believe that X1 is the best controller out there.
I know what you mean. I’m just now trying my hand at DJing, but have been into production, midi, and sound design for many years so I have Gear Addiction Syndrom of course.
When looking at controllers, all the really cool ones that caught my eye and looked like professional pieces of gear that I would love to play with were serato controllers.
The turn off for them is that Serato doesn’t let you use your own sound card, remap your controller, and basically fiddle which is what I want. But damn are they slick. Again I don’t know much about this area being a noob but to me it seems like native instruments is going to strangle themselves by not really working with controller manufacturers and thinking they’ve got it down so why update/compete or form partnerships with other hardware companies. …then again i think i’ve settled on buying 2 traktor x1s because well, I have traktor so might as well stick with hardware that I know will work.
Yay competition!
I sincerely hope this doesn’t turn out to be a new “standard”.
I kind of like having no standard, makes it more acceptable to show up with some weird ass shit that suits exactly YOU.
Let’s remember here, Serato did not create any of these new controllers.
Numark, Pioneer, Denon, and the other companies each made their own controllers, that are “optimized” for Serato DJ. Let’s remember that you CAN map any controller to pretty much any software.
A controller can control almost anything you want it to. Lazy people…
Yeah this is relevant point. Pioneer have clearly tried to make this new controller appeal to those that have the mindset of “industry standard” which we all know is DJM/CDJ but, the very nature of controllers means there will never be a standard.
There is clearly a standard layout for most all-in-one-controllers but there will never be a standard model. I know there are many models of CDJ but the essence of the all is the same. Can’t say that about all controllers.
I think DJTT is the one place where people are generally not lazy when it comes to controllers.
It is ironic that controllers offer the most flexibility to have them do almost whatever you want, yet most people are quick to jump on the newest thing even if it’s basically doing the same thing as your current gear. If you’re creative you can recreate a lot of features from other hardware.
I could not agree more.
Mixing is mixing, you can do it for free with an app. You come off as a gear slut more interested in blinking lights than furthering your ability to create beautiful journeys out of amazing tracks. 
NI isn’t the problem, your insatiable hunger for new buttons to press is.
This. It seems like people will happily enjoy their chosen controller until something new/different comes out, and then they “suddenly” realize just how unhappy they really were with that setup.
In fact, they are suddenly SO unhappy that they threaten to switch to an unfamiliar software platform simply to have access to that controller (often without ever using it first, like in this instance). They get angry that this new flagship controller wasn’t specifically tailored for them, and forget that they already have what they need.
I’ve never seen a group of consumers so perpetually dissatisfied with a product that they supposedly use out of passion, and who are so quick to believe the marketing hype about the superiority of a new controller before it’s even released.
iPhone/Samsung Galaxy S4, XBox/Playstation
Just sayin…
The truth!
I still think this new controller could be an epic flop. It’s too damn big for any regular DJ booth, too expensive for people to use at home and once again way too big to be portable. DJs who use CJDs will want actual CDJs and controller users will want their own gear, I don’t see the point. Though lacking in experience, I could be totally wrong.
There is only 1 club in my country that has a setup (2 CDJ200+DJM800)installed in the booth all others I need to bring my own. all of these booth are big enough for placing a flight with 2 CDJ+DJM.
If I were a CDJ Dj and wanted to switch to digital I would want something that is similar and the DDJ SX and SZ fit that, the SZ more so.
I think Pioneer never even thought this was going into bedrooms they have Ergo Wego SB for that.
The DDJ-SZ does not need displays Serato can show way more details about your song then CDJ2000 Nexus display. This marriage with Serato might even be an attempt from pioneer to get away from Rekordbox later down the road.
If you were bringing a controller to a gig the SX would make a lot more sense. Serato is Pioneer’s way into the MIDI controller market, not a replacement for Rekordbox.
I agree that the SX makes more sense and I do that now. by get away from RB later I meant more like in a few years when external medium CD SD USBstick are not used much any more they have a perfect alternative. They already have a mixer and their top CDJ’s are HID with Serato. Not saying it going to happen but I do see it could.