You sir, are absolutely correct. Thanks for the tip, sorry for doubting you lol. Good call.
Not sure if I’ll actually use it or not, but still… good looking out.
You don’t have to use that specific chain per se, but it achieves the result I was trying to point you towards none the less. And like I originally stated, if you’re going to use this trick depends on where you’re intended audience is going to be listening to it.
Example, if you’re making an “underground” club track, there really wouldn’t be much use for this unless you’re going to use it for a break down or build of some sort.
On the flip side, if you’re getting commissioned to remix a Lady Gaga track, then obviously it’s going to be aimed at more radio play and top 40 listeners, i.e. people who listen to most their music in their cars or on their iPods, so you would want to make the bassline something you could hear in those environments.
That’s what I was trying to get at my friend.
Your typical sin wave sub bass sounds great with a tube amp on it. It really doesn’t distort the low frequencies. Just gives them better presence, and a fuller sound overall.
Fact it there is no default setting, it depends on the slope of the filter and how it sounds. It will be very difficult to judge optimally without having a full range system and heavily bass trapped room.
thanx nephew you always give sound and thoughtful advice mate,its appreciated.is it good practice to just have a single sine oscillator for sub and maybe layer a pitched down 808 tom on top of it just above the kick?.what sort of processing can be used to beef up the sub (apart from pitch envelopes for the attack)im really struggling at the mo.i do sidechain and compress the sub but it always sounds slightly weak with the kick.i suppose im trying to make it for club systems and im only using rockit 6’s but i can hear the sub enough on these speakers with tracks i’ve purchased.i’ll put a couple of links to tracks for you to hear the sort of bottom end im after.it sounds pretty basic mate hope you can help
at 4.40
at 6,10
i cant even hear the bass on this through my pc speakers but its there in spades
prob wont hear it on pc speakers
Haven’t listened to the links yet, but will check them in a bit.
As for beefing up the low end, a simple way is to compress, but not over compress where you lose the dynamics. You could even use a multi band compressor just for the ubber low end. A lot of what you’re hearing might have to do with the mastering as well.
I am by no means a mastering engineer, but I do my own subtle mastering when I finish a track just so I can play it out when I spin, and even a little mastering know how when applied gently can really bring out your low end and give you track a lot of energy.(This is no reason to be slacking on your mix down though! Your mastered project will only sound as good relative to your mix down.)
thanx for the reply…i heard the master you did of whyte’s recent track(sweet!).
i’ll try experimenting a bit.
cheers
when you say some of it will be the mastering do you mean when the maximizer and limiter brings everything up.maybe thats my problem..if i can get a sweet but not hugely loud mixdown done then mastering could add that weight that im after maybe?
I don’t use a maximizer at all, and I have a limiter on but I RARELY hit it, it’s there just in case.
And you don’t want a loud mix down, far from it! You want a very dynamic mix down, leave yourself plenty of head room, so when you play it out you can push it a little harder on the mixer and get that warm bass humming while still having space for all the other sounds to shine.
I go around 30 hz it seems to work well with clubs etc and not overpower anything or make any speakers fart.