which soundcard for new setup im putting together

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which soundcard for new setup im putting together

ok so im looking at getting 2 kontrol x1’s and a ddm4000 for 4 deck mixing at home (plan to add mashine later).

which soundcard will i need to cover this?

thanks

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looking to mix externally, basically im going to use the ddm4000 as a poor mans, low sound quality replacement for an xone 92 =p

thanks in advance guys

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I’d recommend u to get the Audio dj 8! I have it and i Love it

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yeah im quickly realizing thats the only way for me to go, run the x1’s on the audio 8 and then run mashine into the mic return on the mixer.

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Aren’t X1’s USB? Ain’t Maschine USB?

Controllers plug straight into your computer and control the software. You specify where the audio goes from WITHIN your software.

There are a load of sound cards with 8 outs that will allow 4 deck mixing. Don’t fall into the trap of getting NI cards just because so many people around here have 'em.

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so true, OP: tell us how you’re thinking of setting this up :stuck_out_tongue:

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4 outs into the mixer (1 for each deck) and running mashine into the mic input on the mixer. i figure i ever play out with this setup, the likelyhood of a club having an 8 channel mixer is slim to none. 4 channel + mic is a lot more likely.

so since mashine itself doesnt have any audio outputs, ill need either a 9 channel soundcard or an audio 8 and an audio 2? (head explodes)

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nonononono

The maschine plugs into USB port of laptop, just like the X1 (two times) and the audio 8. Then the audio 8 cables (audio cables, output) go into the mixer (4 channel input).. voìla

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im thinking of getting this setup 2 you could use the ddm4000 full midi so plug it in via usb until you have enough money for a soundcard. Thats what im thinking of doing anyways

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yeah see the only way ive seen this setup is by using 2 laptops, 1 for mashine and 1 for traktor, but i went to a clinic yesterday with chris liebing (who was friggin amazing last night i might add) and drumcell swore up and down that you can run 4 decks into an external mixer with mashine on 1 laptop.

i have witnesses, jesc was there with me lol.

but anyway, im just not getting how thats possible without 9 sets of outputs. what am i not grasping here?

thanks for the replies btw everyone

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Its usb so it can plug into the computer then the SOFTWARE can be routed through to traktor. Big fancy DJ’s use 2 labtops because there big fancy DJ’s

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so would that mean im using 3 decks to mix and 1 deck to route mashine?

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i started looking at the NI forums for an answer, god that place is a mess, theres so many duplicate threads that go nowhere for this issue its enough to make my head spin (not in a b boy way)

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The two ports on the back of the maschine are MIDI ports not mic or something like i think you thought they where it is a MIDI controller you could map it to traktors controls or download one via a TSI im not sure what you intend on using it for maybe like booka shade or richie hawtin or just as a MIDI controller to control single drop samples or effects (which you wouldnt need with the X1’s) or if you intend to use it in conjunction with the groovebox software do some research it might be not be worth getting the maschine it is 800 dollars or close to you could get something that does the same things but a cheaper price

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I always thought maschine was a production/performance tool - like an Akai MPC. If you’re using as a controller for Traktor, you might be better off getting an APC. Loads of pads, plus faders and knobs.

UNLESS - you’re planning on having a 4-Deck Traktor set-up, and an additional “deck” (total 5 decks) for playing drum parts/synth parts seperately over the top of your 4 decks.

I’d advise against that. You’ll spend more time trouble shooting than you will DJ’ing/performing. ALSO - running Traktor AND the Maschine software on one computer is gonna put a LOT of strain on your system. You’ll suffer with latency and glitches (the BAD kind of glitches!)

My suggestion would be a set-up like this:

  1. 2 X1’s - each controlleing one deck in Tractor
  2. An MPD 26/32 controlling a further 2 decks in Traktor

That way - you’ll get your 4-deck mixing set-up, and a nice pad controller for what-ever you were gonna use the Maschine for. You can use an MPD for beat production using a different peice of software (Ableton Live?) and then play the produced parts in a deck in Traktor when you are DJ’ing.

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^ thats what i was trying to get across :stuck_out_tongue: thanks for that patch

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A single X1 controls two decks. I guess you could set the second half of the controller to just be extras for that one deck though.

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second half of controller could do ableton or control parameters within ableton or similiar aplications

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Didn’t realise X1 controlled 2 decks… Better post it in the “What I learned today” thread! :smiley:

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for what i plan to do with it, ill be using its sounds to anchor, accent, and augment what im playing in traktor.

aka the richie hawtin method of using maschine and traktor

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Why don’t you use a Firewire interface? Search the blog and you will see a lot of posts about firewire x usb 2.0… I can’t see a disvantage by using Firewire…
You will save one USB by using it and you can have the advantage of using two headphones for dual DJ cueing.

I can point you to this interface, but I don’t have one, I just wish it badly :slight_smile:

M-Audio ProFire 610
High-Definition 6-in/10-out FireWire Audio Interface with Octane Preamp Technology
http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/ProFire610.html

Think about it…