Why Pioneer before Allen & Heath?

Why Pioneer before Allen & Heath?

Hi,

Does anyone here prefer Pioneer before Allen & Heath mixers (you have to tried booth to have a valid opinion) effects aside?

I have big problems to understand why, as I think Allen & Heath is superior the pioneer.

You could start by saying why you think Allen and Heath is superior.

I, for one, prefer brands that sound Iike legal firms.

If only Wolfram and hart made mixers.

I think after you spend more than 500 bucks on a mixer it all becomes personal preference…

I had a Xone 22. Loved it. Sold it. I now have a DJM 250. Loving it.

Both of them are pretty great as mixers, but the “preference” for either kinda depends on what a given workflow/install really needs, and what model of mixer you’re looking at. No professional brand or model is necessarily better than another, its all about the context.

The UK made Allen & Heath mixers of “yesteryear” were superior, IMO, to anything that Pioneer was putting out but that was “then”. Pioneer mixers tend to be more “Industry Standard” and their newest models are quite good. It kinda comes down to personal preference when you’re comparing higher $$$$ models of each.

you’re just british…

I always felt pioneer has a colder sound which isn’t bad but my preference is toward older a&h models like the 464…*drool.

Yes, but I live in crazy town now.

Maybe if you didn’t doubt yourself you wouldn’t be concerned with such trivial things…

Calm down, Freud.

Gemini mixers are superior, get the facts straight.

Is that near funky town?

I’m an ex-sarnd engineer. I got an Allen ‘n’ ‘Eath Xone92, and fink it sarnds fuckin’ wicked!

I"M BRITISH!!

booth companies have their pros and cons. it is all about preference.
cue function on the a&h sucks.
the pioneer sound < a&h sound
4eqs? i don´t need it.
filter? a&h wins
fx? pioneer…

etc.

all in all i prefer pioneer.

Isn’t “Industry Standard” something you become by paying for a lot of endorsements?

workflow/pio being more user friendly?
never used a xone, so i can’t tell from experience

Im leaning towards the pioneer on my next mixer purchase because most of the people i know use them. its not that I want to conform to “industry standard,” it’s because pioneer is always available for purchase here in my area as oppose to A&H.

FWIW, I went with Denon over both Allen & Heath and Pioneer and I’m very happy with my decision.