Ableton (9) vs Ableton Suite (9)

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Ableton (9) vs Ableton Suite (9)

Hi All,
I am thinking about buying full Ableton(8+free upgrade to 9), because now everyone can have 25% off. What version do you recommend me, normal or suite?

normal vs suite (price in EUR):
262 vs 412 (normal present price)
224 vs 374 (my upgrade price)
(374-224=150)

Is good idea to invest 150Eur to Suite version of Ableton?
Do I need Max4Live? (How often do you use it?)
Do I need Analog/Collision/Electric/Operator/Sampler/Tenstion? (How often do you use it?)
List of all differences: Compare Live editions | Ableton

THX ALL

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Do I have to own Max4Live to use Max4Live devices? Or Max4Live is only for creating of M4L devices?

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Suite 8 owners will get a deal later.
Read what David says.
Live 9 Pricing - Ableton Forum

I use Max4Live a lot. Max for Live is a big deal and I think the community will grow with it being part of suite 9.

If you have VSTs, especially Komplete 8, then you probably don’t need analog, collision, electric, operator, sampler, or tension. They are really nice, though. I use Analog, Collision, and Operator quite a bit. Sampler is great, but just has nothing on Kontakt. Electric is fine but there are better electric pianos out there, especially those for Kontakt like Vintage Organs (NI), Broken Wurli (Sonniccouture), and others. In my case, tension falls into disuse.

There is really a lot of sample content that comes with the new Suite, some of which I have already and can vouch for.

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Yes, you absolutely do.

No.

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With the exception of MFL most other parts of the suite are IMHO not that interesting. So you pay a lot for just MFL.

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sampler is great not only as an instrument but using it to store 128 samples(kick drums) and browsing them extremely quickly check out this concept (128’s by Ill.gates). analog and operator also sound great

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Oh yeah - I forgot that uses Sampler (as opposed to Simpler).

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I’m in the same boat.

Haven’t decided yet on max4live. But I’m not gonna buy suite as I’m buying maschine instead and sticking with massive. Learn to master one vst before moving onto others.

..or atleast that’s the plan, and i’ll get struck by gear lust.

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If I don’t love it, or feel limited, I look elsewhere. VSTs aren’t people - Massive doesn’t miss me or feel neglected!

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Hence, gear lust! haha - great thing is.. I can try multiple VSTs without making the others jealous :slight_smile:

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does anyone know if current owners of suite 8 are still going to get a better price than what shows under your account on able tons site?

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That’s what they promised. Haven’t heard anything new about this, so I think all you can do is wait what they’ll offer you once Live 9 is released…

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I hope its somewhat cheaper. I believe the price for 9 suite and puch was nearly 900. I think the upgrade for ableton alone is 300.

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There’s a LOT of bitching going on in the forum post that was linked earlier to Ableton’s forums. I’m sure there will be SOMETHING for Live 8 Suite owners to upgrade to 9’s suite + Push. Anyway I really hope so.

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+1

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I’m sure M4L is getting bundled free with Suite 9 is it not?

Even if you didn’t own it before.

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it is bundled now. im still hoping for a cheaper price on the upgrade. i do want push also. ive seen some sites saying feb 9th as a release date. hope so.

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Why I think suite is worth it:

1.- Max for live provides tons of usefull stuff, midi effects, sequencers and functionality along controllers.
2.- Operator is quite a good synth, also very low on CPU its integration when using instrument racks is also very usefull. Think of ableton native instruments anf fx as building blocks for more complex stuff.
3.- The new libraries include a decent orchestra and a high quality sound design one for techno (the forge).

Now about maschine…I believe that maschine overlaps with drum racks in Live, and now with push you just get many of that kind of functionality inside live. For me Maschine while very good on other DAW’s in Live it just add a layer of complexity that is not needed.

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I’m with you on Max for Live - I’m a huge Max fan/nerd. I <3 Maschines though. Maschine’s sampler is the one of the very best around (second only to Kontakt for me) and they might be the single best controllers on the market.

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anyone think the guitar center date of 2-10-13 for Push shipping out sound wrong. I saw another site that said April 1st. Would be pretty sweet if it were next weekend,.