Well as much as I like learning new tricks I feel kinda sad about using ableton.
The things that could be improved would be the warping big time
It’s sad to see that Traktor can beatgrid a song like 10x better than ableton and then the keylock doesn’t destroy the sound like Ableton.
I got warping down but when listening through my monitor headphones the track sounds like it’s all fuzzy no matter what till I set the master tempo to the same bpm as the track that is playing.
I have tried all the different options for warping but they all sound like garbage imho.
The effects… jesus fucking christ do I really even need to say? THEY BLOW, sure you have like a ton and a half effects but most sound like garbage and leave you needing an external effects processor and controling the ones in ableton with my apc40 isnt easy.
EQ options… found one usermade that worked far better than the built in ones and also has a fucking epic effect in it that Traktor needs.
Organization… I miss seeing all the info laid out in front of me to see such as keys, bpm, artist names, labels, cover art, ect. Those made it easy for me to quickly choose a track.
Fun… not there for me since I feel it’s too much prep work and not doing all the stuff live like I do, sure you can do the same in ableton but the whole quantize bit seems a bit wack and needing to trigger stuff before it happens just to land it on the beat you want.
I sat there mixing a few songs together and felt like I was kinda just tapping “Next” on a mp3 player.
I feel that ableton could get some aspects right with a little more effort for fixing a few things such as the warping and sound preservation, and could potentially blow everything else away.
Maybe it’s just me and not liking ableton too much… but now that I think about it… how is ableton more interesting to look at than Traktor
How am I not a REAL dj using sync in a dj software and yet a dj if I use studio software THAT DOES THE SAME THING ABOUT SYNC herpherpherp.
About the warping, you can change which quality you want, fast or good, in the sample box. (below warp on/off).
As for the fx, I don’t think you are using them correctly somehow. They have a really god rep, anyways. But we all use different VSTs, it’s a matter of taste.
And remember, live is a DAW, not a dj system first. So the browsing experience isn’t made for that…
I have it on high quality but that says it doesnt affect the time stretching.
And as for the mp3s, I dont have a job where i get paid loads of cash since I work as a babysitter so I stick with mp3s from beatport.
then again that might be the problem with the sound is due to quicktime decoding… FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
EDIT: nvm even a wav sounded fuzzy =.= (A non converted wav that is)
Having come from the other way (ableton to traktor) it will get better.. i found gridding in traktor a pain at the start because i was so use to ableton.
If you have a full version of ableton change the warp type to complex pro it is the best encoding and keeping the pitch of a track the same when changing tempo.
Or you can set it to repitch which will act like vynil when changing tempo.
If you have live lite then i think you get the option of complex which so do fine.
Okay, so the fuzzyness have to be an issue with your audio interface, i suppose. If it works good in other programs like traktor, my guess is check your sample rates and so on.
I really don’t get what you’ve been saying about ableton being more acceptable to purist DJs than other software, as I’ve always found the opposite to be the case. It also seems like you’re trying to force yourself to use something that you don’t really like… I love ableton personally, but I know its not for everyone. Use what works for you.
So…umm…Abletons effects are better than Trkator’s, hands down. They actually provide decent control. Abelton and Traktor use the same time stretching algorithm, so if Ableton sounds worse…you’re doing it wrong. And I prefer warping to beat-gridding…the controls are more intuitive and it’s a lot more precise. Traktor is just faster because it’s a lot less precise.
And, again, if you feel like you’re just pressing next, well…you probably are. It’s more important to press play on the right next track at the right time than it is to do anything else. That’s kind of what DJs do.
But…yeah…I haven’t actually DJ’d on Live for a while. Traktor is just easier, and I don’t think it loses that much.
Are you fucking nuts? traktor’s beat grids being better than ableton’s warping? Traktors beat grids are one of the worst I’ve ever seen. They can’t even compensate for bom adjustments and they are no where near as precise as ableton’s.
If you think the effects in traktor are better than the effects in ableton you’re clearly not using them very well. Also you’re totally forgetting that ableton, unlike traktor, is not an all in one program. One of it’s many strengths is that you can use VSTs and the like. Sure it doesn’t have one polished effect with a big knob that does everything for you but you can actually fucking control the effect and use tons of them together, unlike in traktor.
And you’re complaining that a DAW doesn’t have a workflow and a library optimised for DJing? Are you going to start complaining that your laptop doesn’t make a very good breakfast tray? Just because you can do it doesn’t mean that’s what it was made for.
I feel that ableton could get some aspects right with a little more effort for fixing a few things such as the warping and sound preservation, and could potentially blow everything else away.
starting to hate these haters that use cdjs ONLY