so we all know that auto-beat matching is cheating. but there is a new form of cheating, described below:
i just remembered to ask this question : so the other day i saw this TENMINMIX video and there was 28 good comments, but 1 bad comments flamed/bashed on the dood spinning because he played 3 songs from Toolroom Records and said that hes cheating, etc, all songs are very easy to mix and etc and kept going about how easy it is to mix any song from toolroom records. so continued bashing him for playing songs from 1 record label.
is it cheating & lame if your playing songs from one record label when your not an artist from the label?
does it show how skill-less you as a DJ, are, if you only play songs from one record label?
there are so many DJ CHEATING things out there, and i unforuunately can not keep up with all of them, but please i like to learn and stay away from being a “dj cheater” or cheating. I DONT WANT A BAD REP. THANK YOU
its NOT cheating…tell that dude to shut his face…if i want to play all my imperial dub records in order so be it…or all my bedrock records…or all my hooj…or guidance…or greyhound…or…
hmm…it is what it is…I see where that cat is coming from. And he does have a point. its like dj that mix only remixes and edit from the same mp3 dj pool or remixer. They usually follow the same track layout, bpm, intro/break/outro. One thing atleast for me, in my younger years I used to spin gabber hardcore and it was usually Rotterdam, Terror Trax, Dwarf Records & Baby Boom, and I did see it as kinda cheating. Where even if I didnt know the track, lets say…I knew how DJ Issac would produce tracks and how King Mathew/Bass D made there tracks. But back them I would listen to the tracks from start to finish…I would study them.
@keithace,
Nice list of labels. I collect all of them. You got any mixes from one house head to another? At the OP, I don’t think it’s cheating at all, I do think one could be a bit more creative on the track selection side. There’s lots of good labels out there, sometimes if you follow a favorite artist and their collection of tracks it leads you to other labels, which in turn lead you to other artists. So while I feel it’s not cheating,I do feel it’s a DJ’s obligation to search a little deeper than one labels releases. That is of course if you’re not making a promo mix for said label.
I went to a club my buddy was spinning at a couple weeks ago and I’m pretty sure 75% of the tracks were DIM MAK…None of the people there noticed I’m sure, but to me it kind of shows lack of initiative to find new, and more original tracks, and does kind of make me feel like there is a lack of creativity
it isnt cheating, it does mean he isnt well versed in the music though. if all you are playing is 1 or 2 labels. it probably shows that he doesnt do much searching.
I don’t understand why people would moan, surely the art of track selection/mixing leads you to choose two (or more) tracks that fit together rather than two that don’t.
I can understand people moaning if a DJ plays a whole set by the same artist (unless they are the artist in question) but from the same label? I can’t see why that is a problem.
This. Lol. I thought the question about this being cheating was a joke at first lol. I’m surprised so many people are taking this question seriously. The set would lack variety, but I don’t see in any way how it’s cheating. First dj’s want to dictate how you can play your music and now that want to tell you what music you can play too. bs.
Reminds me of hixxy’s mix on bonkers 7, it was 16 or so songs and 14 were from the same label (b trax). I don’t think it’s cheating, but it might get repetitive.
On a side note, auto beat match isn’t cheating depending on how you use it
Haha. Auto beat matching isn’t cheating period. It’s funny that that even comes up on a predominately traktor forum. Djing is not a competition. You don’t earn points. You don’t win or lose.This isn’t a sport. So, how can you cheat playing music? The only thing I see as legitimately cheating is pretending to do something live that actually isn’t live at all because then you are just pretending you are doing things that you aren’t.
Well it might not be cheating, but if you are just doing normal song in song out mixing and aren’t beatmatching, then you can at least be called lazy. I’m not going after people who use sync (I use it since the faders on my VCI 100 are a bit course for my tastes), but what if you go to a club and get asked to use CDJs? Can you mix just as good with manual beatmatching as you can with sync?
Oh well, we really need a sticky to keep the sync debates in or something.
Its also dosent give you a superior social status !
Also if you check on one of the last poll most ppl here are bedroom dj mostly just for fun and not being cocky.
Some labels, Toolroom included, have such a wide range of artists that it would be just as hard to mix all toolroom records as it would to mix in with other labels. I mean if you playing only Mark Knight tracks ok he has a very distinct style and will be very very easy to make it all sound good together but very few artists like to stick to one style and/or sound. So what if he played 3 tracks from the same label a lot of artists will release the same track on many different labels at different times so if you are going to play anything popular why should you have to check what labels has this track been released under and make sure that you don’t play one of those labels tracks next cause some anonymous person on the internet said so. I love it when people can critique a performance but just bashing someone that goes against everything were supposed to be doing. It’s about the music and how it makes you feel. If it sounds good to you great if you can get a entire room of people to rock out to it fantastic. There are so many songs I love and I can remember the exact place I was when I heard it and the emotions they can evoke from me is wondrous. That’s what I try to do to every single person out there when I play music, wether it’s an entire room or one person at a time. I try to project that absolute joy of music to them and allow them to enjoy the music as much as I do. The notion that you should somehow be constrained by someones arbitrary rule is maddening.
P.S. Sorry for the horrible structure and grammar writing was never my strong suit
