Complete (apc40 only) traktor pro mapping

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Complete (apc40 only) traktor pro mapping

i was wondering if anyone had a complete apc40 mapping with traktor pro, with eq and fx both mapped out on the apc40. ( Example diffrent banks on the knob banks) I had found previous mappings but do not have money to buy a bcr2000 to get my eq’s in aswell as effects. this would be greatly appreciated i know a few of you have had success with completely running traktor pro with just apc40.

also If anyone has a map of the apc40 and the bcr2000 running together in traktor pro that would also be awesome aswell ( 2 maps) for 1 program

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The APC 40 isn’t a good controller for Traktor, the layout is very odd for Traktor use, it is meant for Ableton for a reason… I would suggest looking at other options.

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ok

what would you suggest? i have about a 1000 dollars to spend. i am upgrading from an xponent and torq. i just outgrew the program i need 4 decks and better effects.

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Wait for the Xone: DX and use it with Traktor (forget ITCH). That or double your budget and save for a Xone: 4D.

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xone dx

that xone dx looks tight as fuck, 4 decks ..does anyone heard rumors for a release date?

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Earlyish next year, I’ve heard. Could be sooner.

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it’s supposed to be available around europe in early/mid December (well that’s what the dealers are advertising).

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are there any fully functional tsi for apc 40’s that include led and fx and eq? someone help!

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Why do you want to use an APC 40 with Traktor? it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense when there are 30 better controllers out there. If you have one and insist on using it with Traktor just make your own map. I used to search around for MIDI maps other people made when I was lazy and they were never exactly what I wanted, so I finally made my own, it is a lot easier than I thought and it is perfect, and you learn where everything is and how to use it well in the process.

So the bottom line, if you want one then take a few hours and make one.

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Also check out the Vestax Tr-1. I’m seriously considering one of these, since it’s designed specifically for Traktor Pro and 4 decks. The Xone DX is awesome too. If I didn’t need something this month, I would certainly wait for the DX, which is out in Jan for the USA.

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The APC40 is very odd…but I wouldn’t so quickly cross it off for Traktor use. I’ve been working around with my own mapping with 4 decks (transport, cues, beatjump, loops, beatgrids) and mixer (volume, EQs, gain, filters, no FX) for a month or so and it’s really grown on me.

The issue with the APC40 and Traktor is that Traktor’s layout doesn’t naturally map to the APC40 like it does for the VCI-100 or any other midi controller that mimics a decks + mixer control layout; this is both an advantage and a disadvantage.

The advantage is that mapping out the APC40 really makes you think abstractly about your workflow. Mapping the APC40 is really like mapping out a midi keyboard controller like the Oxygen 8 or the Novation SLs…except that you get colored LEDs on your keys for feedback and the rectangular grid layout gives you an opportunity to group functionality in two dimensions. Moreover, the sheer number of buttons means you can map damn near everything in Traktor for 4 decks without a lot of confusion.

The disadvantage is that now you’ve got to think a bit harder about your workflow because the decks + mixer concept isn’t made plain. This means you have to make a choice about what parts of your workflow to prioritize.

The real problems that I’ve found with the APC40 are that a) the default midi operation really sucks. In the default mode, some of the buttons have hard-coded behaviors that can’t be overridden. To fix this, I’ve used ChucK to initialize the APC40 into a different state (though you could use Bome’s, Midi Patch Bay, Max, Pd, etc to do the same) b) The fader section is really cramped if you have large hands or don’t have the most delicate touch; it’s pretty easy to thwack on the wrong fader down there if you’re doing quick movements (at least for me).

Outside of not having a lot of time lately, the only thing holding me up from posting my tsi has been its dependence on an external midi app to get the APC40 in a reasonable state.

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I’m in the process of updating the very basic mapping I’ve had up on the forum for some time now. I’m setting myself a deadline of end of November.

It will have all hotcues mapped, all 4 fx banks with adv/chained modes, and then eqs/filters. Key/panning/looping controls probably going to be part of it too.

Like Xonetacular said, if you want to use the APC40, it may be worthwhile to make your own mapping. That way, you can always tweak the mapping to serve your style. I understand other controllers may be more intuitively laid out for Traktor, but the APC40 provides enough controls to really handle everything offered in the software. My VCI-100 always seems to fall short of knobs and buttons. The Xone: DX also seems like it won’t have enough controls for functions in Traktor without going really deep into modifiers. I figure its like learning to play an instrument.

I use Ableton as well, so having the APC40 for use with Traktor was something of a side-benefit for me. You should really figure out what you’re looking for from a controller.

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its getting close to the end of november how about that map ?

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Yeah. Don’t cross the APC40 off the list. I use one with TPro and it is badass without question. The key point here is that it’s design requires you to think hard about how to represent the Traktor interface on the surface of the unit. It definitely has enough controls for a creative approach. It doesn’t make sense to say “this or that isn’t a good controller” unless it can’t be programmed or has crappy components or some other fatal flaw. The APC40 is fine in that sense, plus it looks like a freakin lightbrite.

You actually don’t have to use that third party app to initialize your APC. It’s taken me a shit-ton of trial and error, experimenting, and headaches, but I’ve figured out how to make ANY button on the APC act as any button type, with full LED feedback. It’s possible entirely within the TPro environment. The only thing I haven’t figured out is how to get the full LED rings around the knobs, but at least every knob has a simple position indicator LED, so feedback isn’t a problem.

So my set-up (just to get those wheels turning) lays out 4 virtual decks on the main pad surface, each with my most used controls (pitch, hotcues, drop, loop functions, etc). The fact that the APC “remembers” the settings of each of it’s 9 banks can be put to great use. I’ve set it up so that one bank contains the controls for two fx units, another bank controls the other two. No soft takeover, no resetting knob positions (love the endless encoders). The gains and eq’s for decks A/B are always available in the the top group of eight knobs, and if I want to work with C/D I use another bank for that. One push and the controls for all four decks are there.

Live I use the APC for transport control, loops, fx selection, eq, and other basic functions, and a VCI to handle the touchy feely things like scratching, beatjumping, and fader fx. It’s a good combo.

I think the trickiest part of wrangling the APC was LEDs. It’s simple enough to get it to light up, but to get the LEDs under control is something else. If anyone works actively with this unit and needs help with a specific behavior, drop me a line.

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http://www.akaipro.com/apc40map?utm_source=MailingList&utm_medium=email&utm_content=ajtaylor%40olemiss.edu&utm_campaign=Akai+Professional+-+November+2009+eNewsletter

the pdf there may help with the led feedback..especially for the knobs

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MISA APC40 for TPro (version 0.01)

I’m attaching my preliminary TSI file for a complete mapping of the APC40. It has enough mixer/transport/fx/loop to control the parameters of Traktor Pro without additional controllers.

This is the initial mapping, and I don’t have any of the LED outputs mapped yet. I may tweak some of the controls for a future point release. For now, just play around with it. I’ll do a video and PDF booklet on mapped controls later on. Be aware that the TSI file has a complete export of my mappings, so there will be an additional map for VCI-100 and nanoKontrol in there as well. I assume you can simply disable them if you don’t want them. I also customized the layouts and am using 4 band eq.

For now:
CLIP LAUNCH
first 4 rows are hotcues
last row is play/loop active

CLIP STOP
cue in/cue

TRACK SELECTION
individual fx bank advanced/chained banked on lower knobs/buttons

ACTIVATOR
sync/monitor cue

SOLO/CUE
fx 1/2 on/off

RECORD ARM
fx 3/4 on/off

FADERS
volume fader/tempo

SCENE LAUNCH COLUMN
bank top knobs/buttons 1-4

STOP ALL CLIPS
bank top knobs/buttons 0 (default)

MASTER
bank lower knobs/buttons for EQ control of deck 3/4

CUE LEVEL
monitor mix (SHIFT bpm)

MASTER FADER
monitor volume (SHIFT tempo mode)

TRACK CONTROL
1: filter/key
2: gain/pan
3: loop
4: empty
5: deck 3/4 eq
0: deck 1/2 eq

SHIFT
several modifier functions

BANK SELECTION
browser/loading

NUDGE-/+
layout select

DEVICE CONTROL
1-8 FX effect selection/parameters/buttons
MASTER deck 3/4 eq and global parameters (snap, quantize, lfo reset, cruise)

XFADER
cross fader

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does any one else have problems when trying to move 3 or more faders at once?

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what is the form to load in my tracktor ?

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This is the best APC40 .tsi file I have yet to fine, Great work! If you can only get the LEDs to light up, this will be a true work of art.

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Thanks morie_ko

Getting the LEDs to light up isn’t very difficult, but it is time consuming. I’ve been meaning to get around to updating the file. I’ll be sure to post it when I finish.