Do controllers really need jogwheels?

What are you looking to do with Reason? Produce or integrate it in a live setup?

Im actually planning to write and article about using Reason live.

Production at the moment.

In that case i highly recommend you get something with keys and ideally faders, buttons and knobs ..etc

This way you can play all the synths in reason, and assign the controls on your keyboard to pretty much any of the on screen parameters. You can record live automation. Whoop.

If you on a budget the M-Audio Oxygen range is fairly inexpensive, and famously modified by Ean to use with Traktor.

Hope that helps.

For pitch bends i actually think keyboards have it right witha pitch wheel, takes up screw all space too ! Id love to see a dj style controller use them. Takes up a hell of alot less space than a jog wheel and would probably be better for the job, also more easily allowing accurate creative pitch bend techniques.

Hmm, now thats a very interesting idea! So technically its possible to dj live with just Traktor and a properly mapped midi keyboard?

I sense a new project coming on!

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Perfect ^^^^

Better then a jogwheel would be a big Circular touchstrip like the iPod ones

And inside this touchstrip we could have another controls

You only need jog/circular input if you do scratch. If not you don’t need it but it could be useful or fun.

Let’s see with Bridge comes how affect this in our workflow as djs…

Even better then a circular touchstrip would be the SCS.3d, this is the best way I’ve seen of using jogwheels :smiley: (Even if it’s virtual jogwheel)

yeah i just have my qwerty keyboard setup to control my deck tempo bends.

feels alot different than vinyl or jogwheels, but does the trick once you get a hang for it.

Right, seeing as jogs are taking bit of a battering, i will hasten to add that touch sensitive jogs are great for effects. I personally love them.

I love touch sensitive jogs for FX, very expressive. But honestly the main reason I like having them is that when playing non-edm or non-gridable music, I feel really stiff and boxed in just relying on knobs, buttons and cue points. I can’t get an organic flow say, playing 60’s soul, unless I can rotate some wheel. I don’t really know how to explain it, but that’s how it is. Playing straight edm, I don’t miss 'em that much.

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I can understand it but with Ableton Warping all could be grided and maintain flow and groove.

:wink:

Does anyone actually like my pitch bend wheel idea out of interest ?

you mean using the wheels to control the on screen pitch fader? yeah i use it with shift button. much better than the original faders, especially as i have range set to 100%, try doing that with faders

now use the vci pitch faders as fader start for decks c and d

jog strip (no not the new vegas workout craze)

i’m diggin the idea of a “jog strip”, like the attigo. you could add x/y fx to scratch.

Stanton SCLVT, Linear Vertical Touch, ?

Sonorosaurus Rex on the iPad has a tempo bend “strip” and it is horrible in my opinion. I can never get the beats to match…

This seems to be a common complaint of touch strips, from my research. Even virtual knobs on touch screens are cruddy for fine tuning (but great for big chunk changes). I feel that it comes down to the size of the control relative to the difference in change for a given input, i.e large platters are nice for fine adjustments. Or small knobs for REALLY fine adjustment if the total range of adjustment is suitably small.

Phil.

As someone who was initiated into djing with dual cd players with jog wheels, and then vinyl, I will probably always look for some sort of platter or jog wheel. Using a VCI-100SE, my use of the jog wheel expands beyond cueing up tracks and into control of effects; thus, the boundaries, to me, at least, are expanding, not closing up. Plus, I still think the crowd likes to see their dj playing with “wheels” during the night…it reassures them that we are, as they know it, djing.

I do Bento! But Im sure we discussed this concept in Bali last year