DUBSTEP, 140, or 70

DUBSTEP, 140, or 70

hey guys im curious what everyone is beatgridding the majority of there dubstep to, i guess technically its 140 bpm (maybe im wrong), but i like running it all at 70 personally

It really doesn’t matter which way it’s beat gridded. It will beatmatch perfectly fine.

I let traktor scan the bpm, then just clean up the gridding a little bit.

depends how you want the timing of your looping and fx to be.

70 you’ll have longer fx/loops intervals, double time 140 you’ll have shorter fx/loops intervals.

Ask theory to Chime in. He rocks dubstep hard.

I spin dubstep at 140. Dunno why but I’ve always done it that way and it’s worked. For some tracks I have to double up to 280 believe it or not because Traktor thinks the first down beat is 1/2 a beat off. I’m too lazy to change the grid haha.


140 will be better in the long run.

i suppose it really doesnt matter as long as youre consistent.

i used to run it at 70, and for the life of me i cant remember what problem i ran into that i needed to use it at 140. i think it was something with the beat count. i really cant remember, sorry.

i think its easier to think about it at 140 because im not really listening just to the kick really, so seeing it at 70 and the grid at 70 just throws me off.

if you do switch to 140 (i recommend you do if you havnt gridded to many tracks yet.) it will take some getting used to seeing so many more grid lines, but it wont be too much of a bother after a while.

ive also started using the most zoomed in choice for the wave forms, so if you can deal with the faster speed then you wont have to worry about all the lines.

each only takes a few hours of play time to get used to.

140 for dub, 175 (zone) for drum step.

Makes mashing with breaks and dnb easier :smiley:

Btw, who remembers my anti-dubstep rantings? Yeah, ‘will they blend’ caused a change of heart :wink:

I use 140 because it gives me better control over the beat. If I want to change the song up a bit i’ll “drum” with the beatmasher, using my MF to control the values of the beatmasher and repeating like that. It’s fun stuff.

yeah, i forgot to mention. LFOs and stuff will be WAY to slow at 140 if youre playing a brosteppy track.
and with the more chilled stuff it might almost sound like youre turning down the volume slowly

is House music 130

or 65??

130

the thing is, dubstep drums are at 70, and the rest is at 140. thus this thread is not dumb.

Its smart!

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Learn something about music theory and you will realize how mute this question is.

It is most decidedly both, if you look at the most basic, two step elements of the beat algorithm.

Some food for thought.

140 divided by 2 equals 70

70 divided by 2 equals 35

THEREFORE

Tracks of:

70bpm

105bpm

140bpm

175bpm

Will ALL share a transient somewhere in the measure, and as well will hold time with one another.

^ this…who is to say a track is 70 or 140…all house music could be set to 65 bpm and itll litterly be the same

although valid, thats not really the topic.

T2 master clock acts funky under 80BPM, I say keep it 140 until this is fixed (or grid at 140 and divide at the end).

Yeah but they won’t necessarily sound good mixed like that. But this is why I notice a lot of dubstep tracks get auto-BPM’d at 105 rather than 140 or 70. Took me a long time to figure it out because if you just look at the grid and the transients, everything seemed to line up.

Good Points Keep Em Comin

very good point, honestly as funny as it is i cant remember exactly what pissed me off at 140 but initially that was what i was going for, lol, but since about a week ago when i decided to switch i have been slowly switching them all over to 70 and it has been working good so i think i might stick with it untill i have any problems since i already been at 140 and got a little pissed haha, but as im trying to drop a track on count that has an offcount first beat, i found myself counting the 8 beats in my head as if it were 140, wich got me feeling possible it should be up there, theorys explanation about drums being at 70 helped alot make sense, as for what advantages i have at 70, i like the timing of fx better, especially being able to get a full 8(4 beat) loop with the slicer, downside is not being able to grab a 135 electro track and speed it up 1 or 2 into a 138 or 139 dubstep track you lower in, a side not is anyone beatgridding around 70 should make sure to change traktors setting to detect grids below 70, i think that was a factor that made me initally go to 140 (without realizing it until i was having mad trouble gridding some 70 songs, o man i was confused)

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