External USB Touchpad as XY-type Controller

External USB Touchpad as XY-type Controller

i’ve searched and found a lot of people discussing this type of thing, but not quite the same.

i wanted to use my external usb touchpad as an XY type controller while not messing with the windows mouse cursor at all - letting me use the touchpad on my laptop as normal. (so then i can buy an lpd8 and not a nanopad :wink:)

on a different thread someone mentioned some software for windows called glovepie.org that allows you to use custom scripts to do exactly what you need. i’m using loopMIDI for the virtual midi port (tho midiyoke would work too i presume).

this script assumes the virtual midi device is number 8. clicking the right touchpad button will make it reset the X and Y vals to the center after 1.5 seconds - left button click to reset that behaviour. outputs X as CC0 and Y as CC1.

it’s not an overly complex script but pasting here in case it’s any use to anyone. i did start out with a much simpler script but this seems to work better. i’ll probably tweak it more - but this at least does work ok. i’m using it to control params 1 and 2 of a ‘single’ effect. it does seem to eat some cpu when i go crazy on the touchpad so might need to see if i can make more efficient.

i guess you could do some cunning bomes type translations with this glovepie software too.

if (var.XYpadInit == 0) then
midi.DeviceOut = 8 // device number to use
debug = midi.OutDevName // show device name in use
midi.GeneralMidi = False
midi.DefaultChannel = 1
var.XYpadXres = 500
var.XYpadYres = 320
var.XYpadXborder = 10
var.XYpadYborder = 10
var.XYpadXmax = var.XYpadXres + var.XYpadXborder * 2
var.XYpadYmax = var.XYpadYres + var.XYpadYborder * 2
var.XYpadXmidiMin = 0
var.XYpadXmidiMax = 100
var.XYpadYmidiMin = 0
var.XYpadYmidiMax = 100
var.XYpadMode1Time = 1.5
var.XYpadInit = 1
endif

mouse.Swallow = true
fakemouse.DirectInputX = mouse1.DirectInputX
fakemouse.DirectInputY = mouse1.DirectInputY
mouse.LeftButton = mouse1.LeftButton
mouse.RightButton = mouse1.RightButton
mouse.MiddleButton = mouse1.MiddleButton
mouse.XButton1 = mouse1.XButton1
mouse.XButton2 = mouse1.XButton2

if mouse2.present then

if (mouse2.LeftButton) then
var.XYpadMode = 0
endif

if (mouse2.RightButton) then
var.XYpadMode = 1
endif

var.XYpadXdelta = Delta(mouse2.DirectInputX)
var.XYpadYdelta = Delta(mouse2.DirectInputY)

if (var.XYpadXdelta != 0 || var.XYpadYdelta != 0) then

var.XYpadTime = TimeStamp()

if (var.XYpadXdelta != 0) then
var.XYpadX = var.XYpadX + var.XYpadXdelta

if (var.XYpadX < 0) then var.XYpadX = 0
if (var.XYpadX > var.XYpadXmax) then var.XYpadX = var.XYpadXmax

if (var.XYpadX < var.XYpadXborder) then
var.XYpadXmidiCC = var.XYpadXmidiMin
elseif (var.XYpadX > var.XYpadXres + var.XYpadXborder) then
var.XYpadXmidiCC = var.XYpadXmidiMax
else
var.XYpadXmidiCC = floor(MapRange(var.XYpadX, 0, var.XYpadXmax, var.XYpadXmidiMin, var.XYpadXmidiMax))
endif

midi.Control0Coarse = var.XYpadXmidiCC%
endif

if (var.XYpadYdelta != 0) then
var.XYpadY = var.XYpadY - var.XYpadYdelta

if (var.XYpadY < 0) then var.XYpadY = 0
if (var.XYpadY > var.XYpadYmax) then var.XYpadY = var.XYpadYmax

if (var.XYpadY < var.XYpadYborder) then
var.XYpadYmidiCC = var.XYpadYmidiMin
elseif (var.XYpadY > var.XYpadYres + var.XYpadYborder) then
var.XYpadYmidiCC = var.XYpadYmidiMax
else
var.XYpadYmidiCC = floor(MapRange(var.XYpadY, 0, var.XYpadYmax, var.XYpadYmidiMin, var.XYpadYmidiMax))
endif

midi.Control1Coarse = var.XYpadYmidiCC%
endif
else
if (var.XYpadMode == 1 && var.XYpadTime < TimeStamp() - var.XYpadMode1Time) then
var.XYpadX =  floor(var.XYpadXres / 2)
var.XYpadY =  floor(var.XYpadYres / 2)
endif
endif
endif

there’s a windows driver that does specifically what you want… but you need to have a certain touchpad… synaptics I think?

use SAVIHost to turn the vst plugin into a windows exe:

you’ll also need a virtual midi port program like LoopBe.

quite cunning the way Touchpad2Midi reads the raw x/y coords on the touchpad… the touchpad on my laptop is synaptics but my external one isnt - or is only recognised as a hid compliant mouse anyway…

cheers for the links - i’ll definately keep that software too for experimenting.

i saw someone else mentioning that they didnt think glovepie was all that stable. i guess that’s ok for a non-mission critical controller. it does concern me relying on so many utils to get the data in and out of the software. or at would do if i ever end up playing out with controllers… i have loopMIDI+midikatapult in the mix atm and was thinking of buying bomes too…