Hello Everyone I’m from Spain and I want to start in all of this of mixing etc (well I don´t know if what Ean Golden does in Ean Golden’s 10 Minute Mini-Set is called mix but that´s what i want to try to do) I apologize if my English is not very good.
I´ve been looking for something to start but I have no idea and hope that you could help me answering this questions. Thanks!
Summary down
First of all.
What DJ-MIDI controller do I need?
I want a cheap (or normal) one, vestax vci-300 would be the expensiest I can afford (611 euros)(794 US$ aprox)
I´ve been looking these too.
-Hercules dj console rmx with virtual dj
-BEHRINGER BCD-3000 Traktor 3 LE DJ
-NUMARK OMNI CONTROL Native Instruments Traktor 3 LE Software
-VESTAX TYPHOON (with serato?)
-NUMARK STEALTH CONTROL with Traktor 3 LE
All of them cost about 170-250 euros (221$-325$ aprox)
Second question is.
What software is better to begginers?
Virtual dj, Traktor 3 LE DJ or Serato itch
I like Traktor for the tutorials of this web but I´ve heard that Serato itch is easy to use
Do you know if some of them are in spanish (very important to me)?
If it is important to answer me I have a PC with Intel(R) Core™2 Quad CPU @2.40GHz 2.39 GHz with Windosws vista 32bits. I did not change my sound card (I think is Realtek HD but i have no idea)
To sum up I need a DJ-Midi controller,can’t be pretty expensive and also need a software like traktor o serato preferably in spanish. I have a PC
Can’t tell or recommend you which midi controler is best for you from your list. But defo i’ll tel you what’s missing on your list. Soundcard! even though you might mix in your bedroom at first, you will need soundcard eventualy. The one which comes with your PC won’t make the cut.
i’m bit short on time, i’ll let others explain you why.
Hey thanks for the answer Kupujte_Pytle.
I’ve read that the vestax vci-300 come with a soundcard of 24 bits with 4 channels so maybe is better pay more than buy a controller and a soundcard apart…
What about Serato, is it easier to use than traktor?
I use Traktor (haven’t used Serato) and it is amazing. It can be as simple or as complex as you like and is great for both starters and pros.
As for your gear you need a few things. Firstly, a way to control your software (this is the controller) and secondly a way to get sound out of the computer and into your speakers (this is the soundcard). Some controllers have built in soundcards (for example the Behringer BCD3000).
I use a Numark Total Control, look below for the link to the mapping I use for it (this is basically what it does in Traktor). I started off with a BCD 3000 but it didn’t work very well on my laptop and i kept having problems so I switched to the total control. I’ve been very happy with it and after a year and a half of frequent use it is still in pretty good condition (although two of the buttons give dodgy results sometimes). You can get the Numark total control in a package called “Total Computer DJ in A box” that includes a pretty good soundcard (Numark DJ/IO), some heaphones (which aren’t very good) and Traktor LE. All this is cheaper than the VCI-100 and the fact that you have Traktor LE means you can upgrade to Traktor Pro for a cheaper price.
The VCI-100 is a great controller as you would have seen from the videos on this site so it’s up to personal taste.
Hey djfletch thanks
Now I understand more about how the controller works and what a map is…
I´ve seen the controller that you are using and the price is ok but i could not find the offer that you said with the soundcard.. I will see in numark’s web site.
I was saying vestax vci 300 because serato and the soundcard are incorporated and Serato have a forum in spanish . I’ve always had problems with correct working of install drivers and those things in my computer so I’m scared of buy the controller and a soundcard apart and have problems and waste my money.
About upgrade traktor 3 LE to PRO does someone knows how much is it?
And a question about mapping Does exist any web to find differents maps to the differents controllers? I mean if I buy a vci 300. Will I find a map to configurate it?
I’m going to say out of your choices either a VCI-100 and an Audio 2 or a VCI-300. Wether or not you want to use the FX to mix can help make that decision. Traktor has more FX options than Itch. The 300 was built as a perfect match to Itch so you won’t have to mess with mappings, but it also limits you for customization. The sky’s the limit for the 100 since nearly every knob, fader, and button is mappable in Traktor. As far as help goes you can get some pretty good help on either software on this forum, but probably quicker answers for Traktor.
Thanks mate!
I´ve been calculating and a Vestax VCI-100 +Audio 4dj+ upgrade Traktor LE to Traktor PRO= 733 euros= 953 US$ aprox (+ Shipping costs of course) and for me it´s much money… well I’m thinking that a Vestax VCI-300 is just a bit cheaper
But the principal problem to me is have a mess with traktor-soundcard-computer
Is Vestax VCI-300 and serato more reliable than others?
Because the most important to me is do not have problems with configutarions
Now I do not care about what program gives me more freedom to mix…
I just want to start at the beginning
Rather than get the Audio 4 and Pro, you should consider getting the Audio 2 and Traktor Duo. It’ll shave a decent amount off the cost and should be more than enough to get you started. Later you can upgrade to Traktor Pro if you want, but the Audio 2 will be just fine for DJ’ing parties. Then you can still get the VCI-100.
So instead of a audio 4dj a audio 2 dj? does it work properly with vci-100 and traktor duo?
Is just 100 euros cheaper (more or less) than a vci-300 so maybe is better buy the vci-300 with serato…
I’m wathing that most of the people of this forum is using traktor so maybe is better get it for the tutorials etc but I do not know
Yeah people in this forum es pretty helpfull, but Serato has one with spanish speakers… and for me that is important.
I have a PC with Intel(R) Core™2 Quad CPU @2.40GHz 2.39 GHz with Windosws vista 32bits. Does it work good with the vci-100 and audio dj2? It is my principal problem, spend my money and after, have problems with the controller or the soundcard but I understand that nobody can tell that is gonna work cool
VCI-100 and Audio 2 will work with windows. I order to get them to work with Traktor you will have to select the VCI-100 as your controller and the Audio 2 as your sound card inside of the program, but there is no problem with them working with windows.
I’ve gotta pipe in and say check out Virtual DJ. Easy to use with most controllers, plays nice with your PC, and great forums in many languages. You can get a 20 day free trial from them and check it out before you buy it, too.
Well, most of you say that the vci-100 with audio2 (is that the sound card?) and traktor duo is enough to start. I will take two days to think about it and probably buy them.
But Do you think it work cool with my pc? (I’ve been in vestax web site and in spec does not say nothing about windows vista only for XP (sorry if I’m been anoying) and I’ve been in traktor forums too and I’ve watched many people with problems to configurate their controllers
And when I will have the controller and the rest of things will i just need mapping the controller to start? Is it easy get maps for the vci-100 with traktor duo?
Yes, the Audio 2 is the sound card. It will all work just fine with any version of windows, including Vista. It’s easy enough to get mappings for the VCI, check out the controller mappings forum here or look at Ean Golden’s VCI-100SE mapping for downloads and ideas on where to get started.
Thanks!
Tomorrow I will make a list of what I´m gonna buy and I hope someone check it over
Just 2 more little questions:
Are there any differents between vestax vci 100 and vestax vci 100 black?
When you buy a vestax vci do you need this? http://www.thomann.de/es/vestax_netzgeraet_vtdc_9.htm
(I think it is to connect the controller to the plug… but the web says they do not have more…) so the black vci came with one but the web say that controller is on request so I imagine i will have to wait since the shop order it to vestax…
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Yeah people in this forum es pretty helpfull, but Serato has one with spanish speakers… and for me that is important.
I have a PC with Intel(R) Core™2 Quad CPU @2.40GHz 2.39 GHz with Windosws vista 32bits. Does it work good with the vci-100 and audio dj2? It is my principal problem, spend my money and after, have problems with the controller or the soundcard but I understand that nobody can tell that is gonna work cool
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