FX send on/off on individual stems twisted gratification + S4

FX send on/off on individual stems twisted gratification + S4

How do I toggle FX send On/off for the individual stem waves.. say I only wanna send twisted gratification FX to my drum wave of track A..? the S4 mapping only lets me toggle volume and filter and as far as I can see the Twisted grat mapping only lets me toggle FX send on/of for the whole track eg. track A.. Am I missing something? (working with S4 and Twister)

How about… hold down left or right handed bottom side button to open new SLOT FX layer for 4-deck controls. Upper and center side button would remain their functionality (deck assign) and all we change is behavior of the bottom two side buttons. How that sounds?

There is a room in the mapping for adding that functionality.

I think I get it..

I think I get what your saying.. but im a complete noob at this mapping business, so i made an Eli5 sketch for my own sake:slight_smile:

link to sketch on imgur:
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my next ultra noob question is then.. how do I do this? do I use the MF-utility or the controller manager in traktor setings?
and what are the steps.. o0

A random thought… Kontrol S4 should also have slot FX buttons mapped in.
Have you try holding Shift + Slot Mute?

which button is slot mute?

I see the slot FX buttons on the computer display..which button is slot mute?

another masterfull sketch:
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is there something I should do in controller manager or MF-utility?

The Slot Mute buttons are integrated on the Traktor hardware’s top layer (S4, F1, D2, S8) except for the kontrol S2 and X1 I believe (that’s probably a reason why they are not dedicated screen buttons). According to

video it seems that the slot FX buttons are missing out on kontrol S4 so I can understand your request.

I would not recommend taking a time to remap the S4 because you if you add some modifiers you are ending up overriding entire map anyways.

As for the Twisted Grat - You should visit the controller manager, it’s very important for you to understand what modifiers are and how you can use current modifier setup in the mapping to create another shift button and than map in the new commands:

Add In > Deck Common > Submix > Slot FX On

Now when we have Stems indicators available in the deck you might also just map FX slots in your computer keyboard.

Using the factory map with override functions:

Map it to the Slot Mute Buttons (In/Out) + Alt Shift (meaning the shift button on the opposite side)
You would need two modifiers mapped to the shift and deck switch buttons.
M1 = 0 [DECK A]
M1 = 1 [DECK A + Shift]
M1 = 2 [DECK A + Alt Shift]]
M1 = 3 [DECK C]
M1 = 4 [DECK C + Shift]
M1 = 5 [DECK C + Alt Shift]

Same with M2 and Deck B/D

Deck Switch Button switches from 0 to 3 and from 3 to 0 (NO OVERRIDE)
Shift switches from 0 to 1 [3 to 4] and (inverted] 1 to 0 [4 to 3] (NO OVERRIDE)
Alt Shift switches from 0 to 2 [3 to 5] and (inverted] 2 to 0 [5 to 3] (NO OVERRIDE)

Sample Buttons still do the factory functions (Slot Mute and Slot Active on Shift+Press for Volume/Filter Control)
Insert Fx On toggle on Sample Buttons with the condition M1 = 2 [Deck A] and 5 [Deck C], same for the LED Out function. (Use OVERRIDE Checkbox)

Use M2 for Deck B/D buttons.

Works for Stem Deck as well as Remix Deck.

Problem is that your mapping is wrong not taking into account browse mode layer and the copy mode and all the potential interactions between those buttons and those layers? So by pressing one or two button intentionally or not it will be disrupted.
And I guess it doesn’t work either if for example your decks c&d are remix decks as the sample buttons will transform into sample triggers for those decks automatically.

The problem with the s4 is that most of them time you will have to remap almost fully the unit if you want a stable mapping system.

no, it works, because of the override function. when alt-shift is down and therefore m1 = 2 (this is for deck A), the 4 sample button functions now ONLY do the slot/stem FX send toggle. the original functions are overridden (even those special triggers, everything the button does is overriden). copy mode doesn’t use the shift button, so everything is in order. believe me, because that’s how my mapping works for more than half a year now.

the only thing i didn’t mention is that a general reset button for the modifiers might be useful.

and you are right with the s4 remap thing. change one thing and you have to check and recheck if you got everything right. at least, when your mapping is already somewhat more voluminous.

Edit: To avoid conflict with the browse mode i added (no override) the function “Browse Mode Off” to both shift buttons. they are not needed in browse mode anyway.

Edit2: At least you got me to cook up a quick tsi for you to check out. :slight_smile:

Meaning you lost the sample load functions on those when in browser mode?

Hey, that’s for the sake of discussion, not dissing your work but I like a mapping when it can’t be ‘broken’, just checking if yours can or cannot be.
Good idea to have put the browse mode off on the shift buttons

The override for the sample buttons is only in effect if you press and hold the shift button on the opposite side. Loading samples still works as it should.

I also like mappings that can’t be broken… and i like to know when they actually break.

actually by removing the bottleneck of the equation (browse/copy mode) you made a smart move.

Yes, if you mean that pressing any Shift button gets you out of it. Browse Mode still works in it’s original way.