Got Bit by the Controllerism Bug!

the twitch is a very cool layout… :wink:

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Though, ever since the LP came out, I have been drooling over the videos. And it’s versatile to use in plenty of software. I’m trying to find the best price on the LP, and figure out the rest later. (and save some pennies for a Twitch /drool)[/quote]

it was watching the LP videos that made me want one originally. after a while u realise that the “virtual faders” etc are no substitute for a real one (or pot) but i did use a page/layer with faders for controlling effects (via midikatapult) for a while and still would if all i had was just the LP at hand…

I don’t think a single all around controller will be enough… at least not after a while since you WILL want more options along the road.

I started off with a numark mixtrack and I just got myself an APC20 which I use for loops, cues, effects and samples. In my opinion, the APC’s give you a metric ton of options to the cost of having to map it yourself (which is tedious, believe me). Even if you don’t need platters, I’d suggest any starter controller in the 150 bucks range (i would suggest the numark mixtrack but it’s build quality leaves a lot to be desired) plus the APC 20 (and a soundcard if the controller doesn’t have one built in). All in all, it won’t set you back more than 350 or 400 and you’ll have a decent setup with tons of options for some time until you decide to go for something better.

Or as some others have said, just get a Twitch and you’ll probably be happy enough.

There was a used APC40 on Amazon for $150 but it sold before I could buy it :-/

I’m getting LP and NanoKontrol to start. I think that will be more useful than the X-Session all around, and I can get both if I really need a horizontal xfader.

Other than mapping, I won’t be missing much from a mixtrack. Literally staring at a full page twitch ad in the MusiciansFriend catalogue that came today /dryhump

lol :stuck_out_tongue: the twitch is one sexy bit of kit…

you can’t go far wrong with a lp+nk, the nk mk1’s arent exactly fantastic quality but i’ve had no issues with mine - depends how u treat them really. people say the mk2’s are much better but also atm a lot more expensive ofc. the nk mk2 gives you more buttons at the expense of only 8 faders instead of 9 and no internal midi banks afaik.

Musician’s Friend has them on sale for $30

(and Ion Discovery Keyboard, i.e. LPK25 rebranded for $30 as well!)

Can’t wait for the post man!

I bought a LP when they first came out in hopes of getting more into production in ableton…
I have yet to make anything solid because its just way to much fun in traktor with the instant grat fx in the top.
I have an x1 and the last gig i had, i didnt touch it, i used the launchpad for everything in traktor. Now i have an external mixer but in your case id say go with something like the xsession pro or something similiar. There is more than enough to keep you busy between a LP and XSP.

You did a whole set in traktor with an LP and nothing else at all??

he had an external mixer. if you mix externally then a launchpad is ideal if you don’t want rotaries/encoders to control any internal effects just using them “instant grat” style.

hence me saying before about using a lp+djm101 to control 2 decks - same kind of idea as using the lp and and external mixer. a lot of fun…

Oh - lol - he said “Now I have an external mixer…” I thought he meant now as opposed to before when he played that show -_-’

They’re so cheap I wonder if it would be nice to get 2 with a mixer in the middle (one for each deck, split them horizontally and make it 4 decks)

Looking forward to some serious mapping :slight_smile:

could do, tho i like being able to quickly move around the 8x8 pads with it split left/right for decks a/b. 4 pads in a row is nice for most stuff in traktor for each kind of thing u want to map.

what would work well for me is moving all effects type stuff to a sep lp, currently using sep pages which is the only (maybe) bad thing about the lp imho. its not all that fast at changing pages as its not very quick if you want to refresh all leds with something else. if i had two tho i’d be more likely to use one with ableton and one with traktor instead of having them on diff pages.

buy one and start mapping and then see how it goes i’d say.

later today i’m planning on releasing a (first) version of my midimasher app to emulate a twitch style slicer on an lpd8 but the same code would also work on a launchpad. would be fun to use 2 rows on a lp to slice with in the same kind of layout as the twitch has.

Yeah, I’m definitely going to try that - can’t wait to see your map.

I’m starting to think ahead, though, and realizing that the rotaries and faders on the MPD series are nice, I wish they made them without the pads! (Like novation’s ZeRO)

Might have to hunt around for an MPD24 :disappointed: I think that would be way better than a nanoKontrol, right? (if they’re similar price?)

depends what for. just on basic build quality then ofc… i think it has encoders instead of pots tho and they dont even have led rings round so they’ll be bugger all use for controlling eq’s.

depends what u want it for. great probably for programming drums. less good as a trigger pad as no led feedback.

i think its a great looking module but if i bought one i’d just use it for drum programming and effects i reckon.

Didn’t know they were encoders. That’s a shame.

Akai has really gotten a bit shite lately, haven’t they…

I guess I’ll get the nano and see how things go :slight_smile:

their lpd8 is very cool :wink: everyone should own at least one lpd8 - they’re just so small/cheap/versatile.

i think they’re encoders but might not be.

I’m using an MPK mini right now (LPD8+LPK25) they’re 270 degree pots.

It’s nice - I’m thinking of getting rid of it and getting 2 LPD8 and mod them so it’s one big controller and make some of the knobs into faders (3 points could be a fader or pot - just no encoders afaik)

But that’s a project for another time! (maybe build an internal USB hub into the housing… hrm… starting to take form in my head :slight_smile:

2 lpd8’s would def be very versatile - tho personally i’d leave them as two. then you can stack them and use like a midifighter (+ 16 pots ofc) or use them vertically each side of your mixer for deck deck centric control…

damn… thats pretty much convinced me i need to buy another lpd8 soon… :stuck_out_tongue:

Do I smell a build log coming up soon? :smiley:

Oh, man, this gets expensive, doesn’t it?

Doesn’t even feel like GAS but I guess it’s close enough!!

i like to think of my addiction as micro-GAS :smiley: i’m not paying much for any individual controller but they are starting to build up.

the more i use the lpd8 the more i like it - tho i have ordered some replacement dials for it - as the ones on it are pretty short. didn’t think before i found that an issue but am hoping some thinner and taller ones with more grip will make it easier to use. in fact recently i said on the forum that i didn’t find them a problem :stuck_out_tongue: they’re not really a problem but they could be better…

edit: think i’ve spent less than 400quid on all the controllers so far - and i’d much rather have all of these than one single one - even if that one was a twitch. tho that would be nice too :stuck_out_tongue:

I agree - I’d rather get one piece at a time, but I suppose that’s the real problem with GAS - you don’t know when to stop.

If I said screw it and bought the twitch or an S4 (gotta have love for Ean) I would probably not buy anything else for the next 5 years or so. Might be cheaper that way!!!

But this way is definitely more fun (even if we still drool over the S4s and midifighters and such!)