How many of You bought something off DJTT

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How many of You bought something off DJTT

Hey so im just here trying to actually get a response from someone at DJTT because all of the other questions i have posed have gone ignored.

How many people on these forums have actually bought something from DJTT?

Out of the people that have how many of you bought the product just for the hardware?

How many of you have purchased hardware because of the mapping provided.

How many of you feel that had the mapping not existed would they have still bought the same controller?

Reason i am asking these questions is that I feel that i have been slightly ripped off here.

I purchased a MFPro over a year ago and the main enticement was the glorious mapping that DJTT provided…had the mapping not existed…i probably would not have shelled out 500 dollars to get this 16 button box with 2 faders and 1 knob.

It is only 1 year later and it seems that they have just completely forgotten about the mf classic and pros and concentrated on the MF3d…and with another “NEW” midi fighter on the way i feel that the same thing is going to happen with the 3D.

Now as a “Hardware” manufacturer, you would think if they advertise their product to work with a specific type of software that they would keep supporting the software…it has been like 1 year and they have already stopped any type of support on their older models…this to me is really bad business practice…I mean if Pioneer made a new CDJ/DJM line every year and then stopped supporting their existing lines…they would not be the power house they are today.

IMO the MF Classic and PRO series are crazy expensive for what you are getting out of them from a hardware perspective…i mean really 16 buttons 2 faders and 1 knob for that much money? There are thousands of better midi controllers for that price point, and they work exactly as advertise and a lot of the companies make additional mappings when software changes.

The biggest enticement that i feel a lot of us have was the mapping that was made for the Midi fighter. DJTT even used the mappings as one of their biggest selling points.

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What do you mean they don’t support the hardware anymore?

I haven’t checked but I’m 99.9% sure they will continue to support the hardware, both with new mappings and with technical support.

You seem upset because they have discontiuned a product and released a new one, but that’s common business practice, done by all hardware manufacturers..

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Unless we take the remix decks into consideration…

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I bought those cool Play/Pause stickers for macbooks. They look pretty cool with the backlighting.

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I have not bought anything from DJTT because I have no idea how much it’d cost to ship to England.

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select product in cart, go to checkout, select shipping to pomland, review

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I have bought stuff off the site, great community, great hardware, great support, I just think their products lose focus before they should and that the mappings are great, but updates are somewhat of a minor letdown. In order to experience true updates and such, you would have to keep up with purchasing the newest controllers and the newest products.

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. How many people on these forums have actually bought something from DJTT?
I have purchased multiple midi fighters, speakers, control F1 and yesterday the Z2.

Out of the people that have how many of you bought the product just for the hardware?
Depends on the hardware.

How many of you have purchased hardware because of the mapping provided.
Not me – most serious people customize existing mappings or map from scratch. That’s kind of the point of all these mid devices.

How many of you feel that had the mapping not existed would they have still bought the same controller?
Look at the threads in enough detail and you’ll find it’s mostly the more casual users who buy items primarily for mappings

Reason i am asking these questions is that I feel that i have been slightly ripped off here.
Didn’t see that coming at all

I purchased a MFPro over a year ago and the main enticement was the glorious mapping that DJTT provided…had the mapping not existed…i probably would not have shelled out 500 dollars to get this 16 button box with 2 faders and 1 knob.
Why didn’t you just shell out $35 for the Traktor Bible instead and create your own mappings?

It is only 1 year later and it seems that they have just completely forgotten about the mf classic and pros and concentrated on the MF3d…and with another “NEW” midi fighter on the way i feel that the same thing is going to happen with the 3D.
You do realize you are dealing with a small, independent business here right? These guys put more out in terms of mappings, and tutorials than companies 10 times their size. Also why is “New” is quotes? Have you seen their next product and is it simply a re-hash or rip off of what’s already been done?

Now as a “Hardware” manufacturer, you would think if they advertise their product to work with a specific type of software that they would keep supporting the software…it has been like 1 year and they have already stopped any type of support on their older models…this to me is really bad business practice…I mean if Pioneer made a new CDJ/DJM line every year and then stopped supporting their existing lines…they would not be the power house they are today.

There you go with the quotes again. I will tell what “I” think. You are getting way out of your depth here. Define “support”. Does their hardware not work on windows 8? Does it not work on Traktor 2.6? Are there any new platforms it’s having issues with? Have you actually emailed them with a question and been told “sorry – we no longer support this?” I’m guessing you haven’t done that. Also are they selling ou a closed system that means that they and only they can make the updates you are looking for? Comparing Pioneer CDJs to MidiFighters is like comparing apples to last Tuesday evening.

IMO the MF Classic and PRO series are crazy expensive for what you are getting out of them from a hardware perspective…i mean really 16 buttons 2 faders and 1 knob for that much money? There are thousands of better midi controllers for that price point, and they work exactly as advertise and a lot of the companies make additional mappings when software changes.
Sound like the most problematic issue you have is your own buying criteria.

The biggest enticement that i feel a lot of us have was the mapping that was made for the Midi fighter. DJTT even used the mappings as one of their biggest selling points.
Sure it’s a selling point but if you are relying on them to continue knocking out new mappings containing oh… I don’t know what as you’ve never even mentioned that, then you are sir, are barking up the wrong cup of tea.

Unfortunately your points are as dull as this thread. You are blaming them for your own lack of research or poor judgment. Even putting that aside, you haven’t given them a chance to try and makes things right for you (although you haven’t eveb said what “right” is other than NEW AND MORE!) Midifighters are not a good buy for people who aren’t looking to be creative and put some work in to creating their own set up. You might also consider why you wasted your time on a poll. Do you really think that you are going to build up a critical mass of disenfranchised MF users?

Sorry to be so direct but people’s expectations these days are way off point and your poll and the tone of your post is just the kind of stuff I love to respond. Now, go have a biscuit….

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Smitten speaks truth. Its not rocket science to make your own mapping to cater your needs.

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sounds like a case of buyers remorse to me.

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I agree with smittten. Also, there are 7 djtt mappings and 5 users mappings for the mfpro on this site. If you want something specific its up to you to create one that suits all of your needs. There’s a few users on here who are very good at helping people with that.

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Point I missed ( or create your own mapping).

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The MF can be mapped the same as every other generic MIDI controller out there, regardless of whether DJTT still sell them or not. So yeah, they’ll be fine as long as MIDI’s still around. And it’s only been about for 30 years or so.

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Hey Gapout,

When you say you haven’t receive a response from anyone at DJTT, have you ever filled out a support ticket?

That’s always the fastest way to get a response from us.

So looking at your thread, it appears your biggest complaint is us not releasing enough mappings? I agree that it would be awesome if we could continue to release mappings continually for every product at all times. Our mapping expert, Chris (flashflooder), is great at what he does. Unfortunately he is only one person and each mapping takes many, many, many, many hours to get right.

It’s not realistic for us to keep releasing mappings for every product, but we would like to empower the community to be able to create their own. This is why we created maps.djtechtools.com to open it up to anyone who wants to create mappings. We realize that not that many people truly understand how to map controllers in Traktor, and will be releasing some tutorial mapping articles in the near future.

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I am not interested in a whole new mapping or even some crazy custom mappings…im just saying support your existing mappings.

Looking at the VCI400 EGE…a friend of mine bought his off DJTT because of the video that showed a demo of Ean on it.

To this day it is still not useable for gigging…and had to resort to the normal mapping provided by VESTEX.

So yes he did get ripped off…because he had to shell out a shit ton of extra money because the VCI400 EGE was suppose to be a power house compared to the VCI400 Standard edition which he could have gone and picked up at a local Music store.

Even the new update for the VCI400 isnt that much better off than the original mapping.

Now as a company who is basing their product as a better product than the original…they should be able to ensure that the product works as advertised.

If you take a look on the Midifighter Thread…you will see hundreds of posts from users who are wondering about updated mappings.

A lot of Us DJs are not computer programmers…we dont speak the language and we dont understand it…yes we could spend weeks reading the book and trying to figure it out…but coming from a traditional DJing background, its not so simple to do.

Any hardware/software provider is always updating creating updates to patch bugs…and firmware revisions to enhance their already solid product…these are the tell tail signs of good support based companies…Apple is a prime example.

Same with Native Instruments…they are continually setting the bar higher for all of us…then they leave it up to us wether we want to update or roll back to the previous version.

There are hundreds of un-answered threads on the midi fighter board of people asking what is going on whats the status on updates that have all gone unheard.

I am just voicing what other people are saying and putting it right up front so everyone can see.

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Owner of a VCI400ege here. I have gigged out with it multiple times running traktor 2.5/2.6 with the mapping djtt provides(Which was also updated recently showing continuous support) No problems whatsoever. Buying something expensive just on the premise of a single youtube video is wrong. Its easy to quickly blame the hardware when most of the time its user fault.

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How much do you want for your MFpro

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I Once bought 2 overlays, of course i only received one, it took them forever to get the other one after telling them

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I bought my S2 from here. Came with Chroma Caps, Audio cables, Mappings, and sound pack. I mostly did it to support the site. I love this community and what the DJTT team are all about. Going to order me a backpack from here too. :slight_smile:

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i’m also a vci-400 ege owner and i haven’t had any noticeable issues with it using the standard djtt mapping or the flashflooder edit, which i prefer. mine is working as advertised.