I'm right about to buy two QSC K12s...

I’m right about to buy two QSC K12s…

So I’m going to buy these today, got an awesome deal from proaudiostar, and I just wanted to ask a quick couple questions before I go ahead with this.

I realize I won’t have a massive amount of low-end off of these, and I won’t be able to afford a sub for a while. For bigger events there will be subs available and I can make that work out. But for house parties/events I put on myself or for my friends, there most likely will not be a sub available.

Will these be enough for moderate to large house parties? I play pretty bass heavy music, and I’d rather not spend a bunch of money I saved up for really underwhelming sound.

I notice these have a “Deep Mode”, or setting used for when you do not have an external sub. I can’t imagine they would provide this option if these speakers are useless in the bass department to begin with, I just have no way to listen to these beforehand and want to get an idea of how much bass I’m actually going to get. As for their sound signature versus other models in their bracket I’m really not too concerned about, from what I’ve heard about them I think I will be satisfied.

So, in a medium sized room, at a probably pretty loud house party (anywhere between 30, all the way up to a big party of maybe 150 people) will these provide enough low end? I know this is all very subjective, but I really don’t know who else to ask really.

You’ll be set. I love my K-12s and I use them to play small-to-medium sized parties all the time. They are perfect for my 1100 square foot garage. :slight_smile: You won’t be blowing the place apart, but they know how to bass.

I really don’t understand specs very well, or the difference between Response and Range. But the sepcs for these say they go down to 48hz… Does that mean, anything below that point is very quiet? completely inaudible? Or what? Because a lot of deep bass notes hit below that (some of the sweetest ones too!)/

I actually kinda disagree. K12s are great speakers but they will be light on the sub bass compared to any slightly cheaper speaker setup with a sub. If you play bass heavy music you’re definitely going to notice…

So, I was also looking at the new EV ZLXs. at about 400 each, maybe slightly less. that leaves me with 550 to spend on a sub, give or take. Can I even get a respectable powered 18" for that much? Assuming i want to spend no more than 1350, which is what i gutting out for the k12s.

call up zzounds.com and they’ll get you a better deal and do a free payment plan on the sub. BOOM!

better than 1350 for brand mew k12s no tax free shipping?

dunno about a payment plan, no idea what my fonancial situation is gonna look like in the next 6 months

I don’t know, haven’t shopped for speakers recently. I’m sure you can get a sub for a little bit more and or you can shop used. I’ve owned QSC setups before and while they are great I would definitely go the ZLX or similar route with a sub over just QSC tops.

also look at RCF

if you need a sub and tops package on a budget for the EV ELX line. 12 inch tops and sub comes to about 1550.00

I’ve read mixed reviews on the ZLX. Honestly they are too new to really consider them a safe purchase and I doubt they were meant to compete with the QSC K series.

K-12’s are the standard. I think with two tops you could throw a decent indoor house party, but if money is tight I’d go the ELX route. For the extra 200 bucks you’ll get a much more complete system.

There is no substitute for a subwoofer. Not even a 15" full-range can reproduce low bass frequencies properly.

Err, the ELX 112P seem to run at about 600$ each, and the matching powered 18 at 800$, that’s 2000$. unless there is somewhere I could get all that with about 500$ knocked off?

Call various places and get their best price. If you pay retail you’re getting taken. You can get a minimum of 20% off at any high-volume retailer.

So the ELX set up would be better overall considering that if I get the QSC’s I won’t have money for a sub for a loooonnnggg time.

The QSC’s are incredible speakers… but without a sub you will be wanting more. I have the ELX 15’s, 12’s and 18’s. For the money, it’s pretty hard to beat the quality. Two ELX112P’s and an EXL118P would be a great starter kit, especially if you can them discounted.

Depending on how “handy” you are, you could always build yourself a relatively compact and insanely powerful sub for like $200… do some research on tapped horn enclosures. A 12" (or even dual 8") high-extension driver, some of which are available for peanuts - especially if your primary concern is volume rather than quality - can be taken down to 30-70Hz in a tapped horn setup.

Sorry to jump on the thread but what does everyone think of the K8s for home monitoring? Compared to speakers and Amp or studio monitors. I’ll start a thread if you think I should OP

I’d just get studio monitors if you are only using them at home. You can get a proper monitor setup + sub for the price of the K8’s. Just my 2 cents.

monitoring for what?

if anything production related then no way. overkill for DJing when you would probably be better off and it will definitely sound better with cheaper monitors and a sub over just k8s.

You will never regret the QSC purchase. They sound AMAZING! Use them for now and get a sub ASAP. Like the QSC K181. I have the K10/K181 combo and its absolutely amazing.

ZLX line had been recalled. I run ELX112P w/ ZXA-1 sub, couldn’t justify lugging ELX118P around and taking up space.

PLEASE NOTE that QSC engineers coverage patterns into their line. K12 is for long throw applications (75 degrees of coverage). I feel like too many consumers are ignoring this and buying the wrong speakers for their commonly used application.