alright so i’ve been working with lots of old analog tunes lately, warping them so they’re quantized in ableton and it’s such a chore…
i wonder is there any tricks to speed up this process? as it is i’m basically just plotting in each warp marker one at a time on every bassdrum and snare hit and it takes a ridiculous amount of time.
I start with the 1st real kick drum of the song and set the warp to complex pro, right click from the 1st warp mark and warp from here. and make sure its lines up good. One song that took me hours to warp was Joy Division Love Will Tear Us Apart. it was everywhere.
okay i’ll try that thanks man… yeah so far each song has been hours long ordeals… like soul crushing “i never want to hear this song again” type shit lol.
^^i only bother warping old analog recordings that are near impossible to mix in traktor without warping in ableton first… classic rock/pop, old r&b etc. you know ones with fluctuating tempos and weird rhythm shifts…
sometimes that’s the case but i like to warp the entire song so i have the option of say laying a heavier beat underneath for the duration of the song to give it more oomph, or to make 3&4 deck mixing a bit more doable.
it’d be really cool if Ean or one of the regular writers did an article on tips & tricks about how to warp these types of trouble tunes the easy way (if there is one)… there’s gotta be a way… there’s gotta be!!!
AFAIK, there’s nothing you’re missing. Some tracks are just really troublesome. I run into this issue where Ableton will take a big long section and lay the markers a little too far ahead of or behind the beat, even though another section is spot on. I don’t know of a way to make it take “a closer look” at just one section, but maybe someone else has a secret technique…
Every online tutorial Ive seen is always using the simplest 1 click wonder..
for me its ear fatigue. The only solution Ive found with pain the ass tracks is to break the track up into parts and only sync the parts I can use.. but this is not the way..
Electronic dance tracks with a solid tempo are suuuper easy to warp, however when you have tracks with a constant fluctuating tempo then your pretty much stuck to creating many many many warp markers - sorry i couldnt bring you good news !
check out the abletonlivedj forums…this comes up a lot over there. But, yes…it’s tedious.
BTW, if you’re putting a yellow warp marker on every bass and snare hit, you’re going to break the time-stretching algorithm and wonder why it sounds bad. No, I’m not kidding.
sorry to tell you this duerr but i saw a vid by moldover years ago and he had untold amounts of markers.i’ve never understood how someone can warp all there tracks this way without headbutting something concrete till the concrete breaks.
good luck mate,
dont start with every beat straight off though,put them at maybe a minute each marker at first and then start adding and listening.the more you put in straight away the more of a headache it will be
I was chatting to a mate about this last night - I don’t and wouldn’t warp a lot of the stuff I play (old soul/funk/hip-hop, etc). The slight imprecision in the beat can add a lot of soul to a track (though it does make it harder to cock about with a lot of clever Traktor tricks)