How do you explain this?
And that?
yep, vinyl’s still around. Caspa still rocks all vinyl. dubplate culture is something i don’t want to ever see lost.
these guys saying the 1200 going out of production is the nail in the coffin have obviously never used one.. the last one off the line will be in perfect working order until 2050.. 
vinyl dead? yeah right.
maybe for djs who only play the latest dance music… but for eclectic djs, there’s a lot of old music that is harder to find on mp3 (in playable quality) than it is to find copies of it on vinyl. vinyl is also a prime sample source for producers and i don’t see this changing anytime soon.
if any format is going to get phased out it’s CD’s and CD Decks.
Ima have to agree with that^^^
Yes I agree too I think that CDs are on their last run.
Vinyl will never die. Maybe dj’s will quit using vinyl, but you got to remember all of the collectors who are not dj’s. Lots and lots of people collect vinyl, and that will never change.
I agree with that but to me its sad that the 1200 are not getting made anymore to me there’s nothing more cooler than seeing a DJ scratching those records, I wanna see a DMC with CDJs or controllers how would that be?
By putting those sales into context. Here’s the Nielsen sales chart that covers your 33% bump in vinyl sales. Now look at that against digital music.
I’ll give you a minute…
2.5 million vinyl sales. 1.24 BILLION digital music sales. That’s billion - with a B.
The link above gives us some figures, let’s look at the report as a whole. These are the same figures your article pulls from, as well as the one I posted above. Look at digital sales, which now represent 40% of overall music sales (up from 32% in 2008). Look at physical media - physical albums are down by 20% from 2008 (digital albums are up 14% for the same time period).
Now, let’s look at those vinyl sales you’re bringing up and see what they REALLY are. Look at the TOP TEN VINYL ALBUMS and TOP TEN VINYL ARTISTS towards the bottom of the list. Think any of those sales are going to help the DJ industry? Doesn’t look like it to me.
The blip in vinyl sales that’s happening now is the “Pabst Effect”. It’s a bunch of trendy hipsters buying vinyl to be ironically cool. It’s established bands putting out fanservice (like Radiohead) which is appealing because of said perceived coolness of anachronistic media format. If the Vivian Girls released their next album on reel to reel, you’d see a bunch of hipster douchebags going out and buying reel to reel machines to listen to it, and in 2011 SoundScan would report a shocking 50% rise in reel to reel sales (from one unit to two).
Thanks for sharing that info very interesting.
i think there will always be a small niche of people who will bring out the vinyl for parties once in awhile for the nostalgiac value.
it’s such a huge part of the roots of hiphop and dance music culture, i couldn’t imagine it disappearing altogether.
it’s also something of a status symbol amongst djs for the time being to be able to say “Yeah i CAN spin vinyl.” too soon to say how long that will last though…
yes, digital sales boomed. so did the outlets you could buy them at. but you can’t deny the fact that vinyl sales increased. sure, they may be some lame hipsters in there, but money is money in the end no?
i think what is being overlooked here are all the cats that HAVE vinyl. if we’re talking about a medium dying, we can’t just look at it economically. socially, there are dudes with HUGE vinyl collections. some of these records they may sell, which would go back into circulation, but regardless, these cats are still making it relevant by using it.
don’t let economics tell you what’s “in” and what’s “out”. then you’re just a stupid consumerist.
no.
but sadly in 1 or maybe 2 generations i think it will.
apart from a small or large amount of historians maybe?
Is vinyl dying? eventually, maybe. Not for now.
Still i am pretty sure it will become less and less relevant for DJs. I mean, let’s face it. Most club owners aren’t vinyl enthusiasts. They may still have MKIIs in the clubs, but they know that they’re used less and less by DJs. Sure, there are and will be some hardcore vinyl only guys. Thing is, sooner or later, even the built-like-a-tank MKIIs break, especially if they aren’t really used that often anymore (dunno why, but unused electronic and mechanical devices do break in my experience). And when they do, they can’t be replaced by new ones, and I doubt that most club owners will try to find a specialised repair service for turntables. My guess is they just won’t bother.
I know a few places where you already have to bring your own TTs if you want to use vinyl. This will happen more often, and DJs will consider alternatives to lugging around their precious gear.
i agree that eventually all technology becomes obsolete.
you don’t see DJs complaining about having a crossfader “sorry i only mix on mixers with transformers” .. or tables with no pitch faders for that matter.. 
i hope that never happened, actually, but you get my point. in 50 years CDs will be dying due to some new technology and the old guard will talk about how “unique” and “special” playing CDs are. it’s all cyclical 
You’ve got to be kidding me.
Go take a shower, hippie.
LOL
what’s up your ass?
That depends. In the case of DJs, that answer is no. When dance artists distribute music, there are limited resources available. That means media consolidation. The cheapest media BY FAR to distribute on is digital. There are no shipping costs, warehousing, manufacturing, etc. As more and more digital distribution methods establish themselves, you’ll see this shift accelerate. Look at Best Buy as an example. I remember walking into a Best Buy 10 years ago and seeing nothing but CDs and DVDs. Now these sections are tiny relative to things like gaming, computers, and cell phones. The business model reached a tipping point where it made more money for Best Buy by eliminating all but the most popular CDs and using that retail space for other things.
The trickle effect is “out of sight, out of mind”. Consumers are driven to online purchasing because of this phenomenon. What happens then? I think you’ll agree that brick and mortar music stores are closing left and right. If the consumer is forced to go online to buy, which option will they choose - one that requires waiting for shipping and once recieved, ripping to a digital format so it can be played on that iPhone? Or will they choose the format that gives them the instant satisfaction of their purchase, and also requires no effort on their part except dragging into a program? This is happening with ALL media right now - including movies. Digital distribution is being held back artificially by movie distribution entities by not allowing access to digital copies until the DVD has been in the market for 30 days or more. But this is just a stop-gap measure until they can figure out the content protection and rights management.
I’ve addressed this in every post I’ve made in this thread. What do you think is going to happen when the last vinyl pressing facility goes belly up? Do you think that all those cartridge manufacturers are still going to make carts, even though their business model is dead? THIS year is the year we reached the tipping point. DVS will transition away from vinyl as a medium, and will eventually die completely as devices are developed that communicate with the software directly instead of going through a complicated and error prone process. We’re already seeing developers take this approach (Denon and their hybrid timecode update for example).
That’s a childish attitude. We’re not talking about what’s in or what’s out. We’re talking about BUSINESS. It’s a business to the people who make these products - not some philanthropic move based on an idea of what’s cool. When the business model no longer makes sense, these companies either change or die.
People who complain about consumerist culture as if economics is somehow a specifically evil force that’s sole ambition is to force them to look like something they don’t like.
Sorry…you sound like one too many women’s sutdies majors, hippies, hipsters, or general douche bags I’ve had to listen to in my life. Maybe you’re not that way, but…all evidence to the contrary so far.
I just really think it should be legal to set hipsters on fire.
people getting a bit too offended on this topic. i’m out after this.
i think with the rampant piracy we’re seeing these days, the business model could change back to physical mediums. who knows.
wake me when that happens.. seriously, we’ve got a minute. it’s not going to happen next year. i’ll put money (and my vinyl collection) on it.
i agree with that last sentence whole heartedly. so before you jump to name calling let’s work out our personal emotional issues and then write on forums now let me clarify why i said that:
it seems as if you were all basing your ideas of what’s happening by sales statistics, when there’s more to it. all i’m saying is look past the numbers once in a while. vinyl is a CULTURE.