Kontrol Z2
nevermind, I must have just gotten a poor first two units as my 3rd has hung in there for 4 months now
They don’t sell the certified or upgrade kits anymore. I have a vestax 07 pro for sale with TSP2A6 if you are interested. I have two and they both have not failed me at all. Audio 6 interface built in
Sure they do (except in the Netherlands).
http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/products/dj/traktor-scratch-a10/?page=4781
Buying traktor scratch audio 10 is not an upgrade kit. Link has been forwarded to audio 10 TSP for a good minute now
Well, maybe you’re seeing something else when using the link I provided (due to your US IP-address or something), but this is what I’m getting (I put a red box around the interesting part, as the URL itself and the banner at the top confusingly mention the A10). The asterisk corresponds to this (further down, wouldn’t fit on the screenshot): “*Audio interface not included. This product is not available in the Netherlands.”
As they list a price in USD I guess it should be available in the US 
Nope, I’m in the US, and it links to the Timecode Upgrade that it always has.
LiquitATL must be confused about something.
Here, I’ll take the link one step further to the ordering page…
http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/products/?sku=TSP2SWTIMECODEKIT&category=1303&page=2850
Link just goes to main products page. I’m not confused.
It doesn’t for me. Its the tsp2 timecode kit order page here. $119.
Although there is some fine print that say “Available in Africa, Oceania from end of January 2013”
That’s just bizarre!!
Even that link that I provided doesn’t send you to the ordering page?
somehow it mysteriously worked this morning when I tried. I have been trying to get this from the site for a good minute now. Every time I hit buy now it brought me to main products page before.
*** NOT IN STOCK *** I knew I wasn’t crazy
DJM-850/900. Both have built in traktor scratch certified soundcards. By the way, the same soundcard is in BOTH mixers! You just have to decide if you need 2 added color effects, added beat effects, digital x-pad, quantized effects (through rekordbox only), and/or digital outs vs the standard RCA method.
I got a DJM-850 for $900 after the included Pioneer rebate BNIB from Guitar Center back in October of this year. It has been a pleasure mixing on it since.
EDIT - Also, interesting take on the Z2. I was thinking about picking this mixer up back in October but wound up going with Pioneer because I didn’t like the fact the Z2 had no built in effects and was physically only 2 channels without software.
I have my 909 up for sale and can’t decide between a Z2, x1600, or 850. Uhhggg. I am a house DJ with a turntablism alter ego. 90% of the time I play out, it’s on a 800 or 900 nexus.
Edit: If I decide to go Pioneer, I’ll probably just hold out and get a 900 nexus. hmm. hmmm. hmmmm.
This is where I am right now.
It’s driving me bonkers trying to make a decision.
If I were to buy the Z2, I would immediately purchase (3) Innofader PNPs,
because all (3) of those stock faders are faulty to one degree or another.
This would bring the price up to $1,175.00. Whereas, if I bought the X1600
(for $1,000) the crossfader is already pretty good, and the linefaders, though
they aren’t necessarily scratch-worthy, are at least long-throw, which makes
them smooth for House Music transitions.
Plus I would have to add an additional $120 for the TSP2 License,
which brings the X1600 up to $1,120.00
So effectively they cost the same. What I need to know is, Are there
any long-standing issues with using the X1600’s internal Soundcard for
Traktor Scratch?
Or… Does the Z2 have comparable sound quality to the X1600?
Are the Z2’s VU Meters as accurate as the 1600’s? Does not having
proper Sends/Return on the Z2 inhibit future expandability? Does
the Z2’s Build Quality stack up to the X1600’s?
My 1600 is a tank, just turned 2 years old. Faders are immaculate. Midi mapping is infinite. Sound quality is epic. Of all the DJ stuff I’ve owned, this, by far is the greatest value proposition I have encountered. I’ll never give it up.
I stand corrected, LiquitATL!!!
Not only is it “Out of Stock” on the NI Ordering Page, but I did a search for it on the
Web, and apparently it isn’t available anywhere!!!
This is very suspicious! Putting on my conspiratorial cap on for a minute, this makes
me harken back to what Gizmo (Skratch/DJ Worx) said about NI wanting to “RULE THEM ALL”…
to be the Apple of the DJ World. What if NI are no longer offering the “Scratch Upgrade Kit”
because they want to eliminate the competition for their new line of Hardware Mixers,
the first of which being the Z2? I mean, if you just bought a shiny new piece of Pioneer or
Denon gear, and were wanting to get the Scratch License, you’re pretty much shit outta’ luck.
Well, that is unless you purchase an Audio6 or Audio10 Kit, then you could use that license
w’ the third party “Traktor Scratch Certified” mixer.
My assumption is that we are witnessing the end of third party “Traktor Scratch Certification”.
This gives me pause about purchasing a Denon X1600 now. Perhaps I should just buy the Z2,
and accept that it’s going to be a throw-away mixer, that will likely only last me a few or more
years, until’ NI release their next Z4 or whatever else they’ve got cooking up, update.
Well played NI! Now you’re just like Rane/Serato partnership, in that you’re locking down your
customers to using specific hardware if they want the traditional Vinyl/CDJ mixing experience.
Am I just crazy, or does this seem feasible?
Tested it again, would still work for me to order the upgrade kit. Mysterious, though.
You could be a bit of a grassy-knollist. – They’re just out of stock. I got a new upgrade kit about a month ago, ordered it about 2 weeks prior. They are having a hard time keeping up with demand for the MK2 sets. Maybe smoke some different meds for a while? 
Cool, well that’s good to know…and yes, I do love to contemplate a good conspiracy