My favorite EQ is a digital one, I’ll take DMG Equilibrium over anything analog any day of the week ![]()
There’s always one ![]()
Of course there are many analog ones out there, you obviously haven’t found the right one ![]()
I’ll have to try the DMG out ![]()
I know, a smart ass in every room ![]()
I used to work here. While the experience wasn’t totally positive, it gave me a lot of first hand experience with a lot of the gear people dream about, and I got to sit in on a few mastering sessions with some very talented engineers…and I lost count of the number of gold and platinum records and grammies they’ve got under their belts.
The sessions I sat in on were an eclectic mix of digital and analog. But the most used analog things were vintage compressors. EQs, stereo imaging, multiband compression, and limiting were all ITB.
The funny thing was sitting in on the full process (tracking, mixing, mastering) with a couple different engineers in Studio 11. The final product was better than I could have imagined from listening to them while tweaking mic placement, and they did use a lot of analog gear on the way in. But it was mixed & mastered entirely in the box. The SSL console basically functioned as a keyboard stand.
I think we’re getting at the same point, that LANDR can’t possibly replicate what a good engineer with good gear does, but as a convenient example…LANDR vs. Tarekith (an all-ITB, AFAIK, mastering engineer) isn’t an apples to apples comparison either. It’s not like software = bad, hardware = good. As far as I’m aware, the only thing that has to be analog is the speakers…and LANDR doesn’t even have them.
Well I tried it again with an unmastered, but EQ’d Trance Track @ -7db
I ended up with an unplayable, clipped, crunchy, very loud pile of dogpoo (tried all intensity settings and Wav export)
On the upside the Waveform looked nice and neat ![]()
I’m sure it works well for some tracks, just not so well with others.
Original File
What Landr Did (medium intensity)
What I did to the original file afterwards
Hello everybody.
Here Sebastian from LANDR.
I have read the whole thread and have heard the track you guys used to compare and test LANDR.
I have to say that LANDR is made for Musicians and Producers who are starting and don’t have the $ to afford a good engineer or the equipment + training to bring their track to another level.
LANDR is not here to replace the master engineers of this world. I have discussed with many Master engineers about our engine. Yes, they weren’t too happy at first but after a couple messages they understood what it was here for.
“To show the importance of Mastering and to help people improve their mixing skills without having to pay hundreds or even thousands of dollars”
Now, about the MP3s at 192kbps, they’re there because it’s the quality file that most people use/stream on the web.
There’s WAVs in the Redbook standard (44.1/16) and soon higher output formats going up to 92/24.
We are constantly improving the engine from the feedback we get from our users. if you get a distorted or damaged track from LANDR, don’t just give up on us. let us know and we’ll fix it for you.
Any more questions or comments? hit me up ![]()
so it turns your song into a EDM track
Yeah, that’s pretty intense for medium intensity. ![]()
So basically, it squashes the bejeezus out of your songs. Interesting. I should write a program to do that. Can’t be that hard…
I swore I wasn’t going to talk about LANDR anymore, but… ![]()
I don’t get why any serious musician would even consider this, even those doing it just for fun. You spend a ton of time pouring your heart and soul into a song, and then at the very last step you want to let some brand new AI based online system have a go irreversibly altering your audio quality right before you release it??? ![]()
I get people can’t afford professional mastering, but at the very least handle that last aspect yourself so you can HEAR what you’re actually doing. Even randomly choosing a “mastering preset” in your DAW that’s named after your song’s genre of music is better than this, and doesn’t cost a cent.
Better yet, stop looking at mastering as some magical last step and just use a limiter to boost the volume of your mixdown. At least then you can back it off a bit once it starts clipping. It’s like building a Ferrari from scratch and then letting some random little kids paint it with markers when you’re done. Might look good, might not, but either way it’s a crap shoot since they don’t know your intentions or what you personally consider aesthetically appealing.
I’m fully aware I’m completely biased, but seriously, this is just the dumbest idea ever for people who care about what their own music sounds like.
Definitely good advice Tarekith.
I tried Landr because they sent an offer through when I was entering a remix contest. I actually didn’t read up on it and I uploaded my wav. It was only then I realised it was some horrendous auto-master when it chucked it back to me 5 minutes later. I had previously mastered a version myself. The Landr version had sucked all my bass out. I don’t mix bass heavy anyway and on my mastering I had just added -6dB/Oct 16hz hi-pass filter just to tighten the bass, added a bit of 2.4k and a bit of a top end shelf, plus digi limiting. By no means could you say my unmastered mix was bass heavy. It was more of a pop bass level than pumping club. I thought if they are trying to appeal to the dance market via Beatport…?? ![]()
The guy I learnt mastering from (and never got as good as) always approached mastering musically. He would be using eq to bring vocals out, or warmth of keyboards, etc. Landr is approaching it from a spectrum analysis angle. What would you say if you went to a mastering session and the engineer sat there tweaking the eq until he got the analyser to give him the response he was looking for?
I hear you, but what mastering engineer is going to do that?
FWIW, my post wasn’t meant to be a dig at anyone here, more at the concept LANDR are pushing.
That’s my point. No engineer would, but that is what Landr is doing.
Gotcha.
Sounds like what some people do the first time they play with Ozone. Usually they figure it out when they listen to it and it sounds worse, though.
I think I’ve also read stories about people doing that on gearslutz, but I’m pretty sure it was in a “stupidest thing you’ve ever seen in a studio” thread.


