My face when the experienced DJ's levels are in the RED

My face when the experienced DJ’s levels are in the RED

So there I was front row with clear view of the mixer, wich was masterfully manipulated by an experienced DJ and producer, and I noticed that he was playing in the red, not just a little and occasionally but he was full on blasting till the top.

Then a few other things hit me, it’s 3 in the morning for god 's sake, were they clipping all night ?
And why would you boost the eq’s (the knobs were at 3 o clock or so) if you’re already clipping ?

Why does this still happen ? And why does nobody even give a damn ? There were other DJs and organizers in the booth as well and they didn’t seem to care.

It’s a damn shame. ლ(ಠ_ಠ&#4314:wink:

Who were they? That’s really odd as this is one of the basics of djing!

cause the Pio mixers are made to run hot?

It was a dubstep night at an underground but prestigious venue in Leuven, Belgium.

When I noticed it Trom was playing.

Here’s the timetable so you can see who else probably didn’t realize how expensive it is to replace broken speakers:

♫ TIMETABLE ♫

  • 21-22u : Oowkey
  • 22-23u : Owbey B2B Snor
  • 23-00u : Subtitled
  • 00-01u : Pheral
  • 01-02u : Frontline.
  • 02-04u : Trom b2b Guandan
  • 04-05u : Tan-G

Not what you would call a rookie.

Reloop.

The booth was held up by oil barrels, the venue isn’t exactly rich.

long as the master aint clipping, all good :wink:

Maybe made to run hot, but not full on balls to the wall double reds all the time where the meters don’t even move and every LED just stays constantly lit on all channels and master like so many people run them.

I’ve seen really great DJs and producers run them like this with subs sounding like they are dying- you would think if someone is a producer who supposedly knows enough about mixing and production to release great tracks they would know not to clip DJ mixers and think the rules all of the sudden don’t apply.

too many people think this is the only way to run a DJM

Acceptable running hot would be peaking in the high yellows and maybe a little flicker of single reds now and then but not constant double reds.

I agree with Jester, so long as the master is all good.

Correct me if I’m wrong but the sound engineer will protect the sound system. Not saying its right cos it isn’t but the speakers won’t be in danger because all good venues employ a sound guy to make sure idiot DJ’s don’t ruin the system with their blazing hot outputs.

Doesn’t matter- if they are clipping at the mixer it will still sound like crap and that signal is already distorted and clipped and can’t get fixed by the sound guy.

This is the so called top DJ in the scene I used to play in.

OP here, kinda forgot about this.

FYI: The master was clipping, just about everything that could clip was in fact clipping.

And there was a single dude in the sound engineer booth, but he looked 17 so I’m not sure if he did anything at all.

I’ve just seen a picture uploaded on Facebook by one of the biggest clubs around here of a DJ running a DJM 900 in the reds. The excuse was “it’s ok because the club can handle it”…

Same here.

Played at a traditional club here and played with two DJ’s. The most famous one plays for 20 years and is the resident of the club. The other one plays for 18 years. Awesome song selection.

Both stopped playing, approached my S4 and saw the 800 with the Master blasting reds.


Edited pic. Don’t know if anyone from my town enters here, and he is one of the best around here. BUT WHYY???

I’m in blue, all serious. :slight_smile:

So it’s you b2b the resident b2b some other guy ??

OVERKILL

It’s strange that after 2 decades of experience they don’t know why the flashy green/red thingymajig is there.
Sad to see that .WAV goodness do to waste.

DB4 goes to 11, but only on the headphones. Master only goes to 10. :disappointed:

Got a Reloop RMX-30 Blackfire edition at home, I can only agree with Jester.NZ here.
(Same goes for EQs beyond 12 o’clock. :wink: )

Gotta watch that movie again real soon. I can listen to “Lick my lovepump” over and over. :slight_smile:

thats why i play hardcore, distored kick drums, snares, hats, synths & vocals.

It’s simple gain staging, and some people don’t understand it. I don’t know how many DJs I’ve seen with their levels all in the red who have been doing this for 10 plus years. If it’s supposed to be louder, then the engineer will turn it up FFS!