Alright I was sitting in my English class today and got to wondering: Often times, it seems someone will come up to you at a gig you’re playing and request a song that you don’t have. Rather than bumming someone out, what if someone could create a program/thing that did something like this:
The DJ could go on YouTube or similar website that has the song, and route the audio as a stream into a channel on Traktor, after which he can then mix it/work it into the set.
Is this possible, or has someone already made something like this? This literally is an idea that just popped into my head, so I haven’t really done any research on it. Any thoughts?
When I say gig, I was talking about like house parties and stuff, where people are so drunk they don’t really care, and the DJ is simply one step up from a laptop with iTunes running
Should’ve been more specific. You’re right, you couldn’t really use YouTube in a club setting. What about something other than YouTube though? Like a matching website devoted to this sort of thing, perhaps along the lines of Beatport, where you could stream the full song, and then have an option to buy it? Idk, I’m just kinda spitting out stuff as it comes to me.
Algoriddim djay’s latest feature is cloud streaming (from iTunes/icloud I guess), its pretty much exactly what you are talking about and would be in high quality if thats the case.
it was mentioned alongside the unveiling of the iDjay pro although they also mentioned the drawbacks being that the cloud is just “not there yet”.
The problem with the cloud IMHO as a whole is always bandwidth quality and reliability :-S … unless its a dedicated leased line you would most likely experience slowdowns at some point and most likely need a 8+ meg uncontended connection in order to stream reliably 100% of the time, even youtube can’t do that right now.
From the way the Numark guy was talking it looks like the plan is to overcome the space limitation on an iPad.
e.g. you have an iCloud account (with iTunes music on it)
You don’t have EVERY track loaded onto the iPad itself, but need to get it because the birthday boy / girl / person in coffin requests it.
You can connect to your account and stream it to the iPad - you would still need to buy the actual track - probably from iTunes (adding to your iCloud acc).
I think utilizing youtube/spotify etc … would be pretty nasty sound wise and don’t think ANY application manufacturer would want to be tied up with crap sounding software for any reason - the cloud is a viable option but not “music for free”.
i don’t personally have a smartphone, but you could probably play a track on youtube on your smartphone and run it through your mixer. thats if your not looking for sound quality.
Why not just quickly go to beatport etc and download the track you want while you wait. Then play the mp3 like normal? (assuming they have wifi at this party)
If you wanna play youtube in your sets you could using audio routing software to route the audio into a deck into insert your fav music software here, theres nothing stopping anyone doing this with off the shelf software thats currently available so i hardly think its a get rich quick scheme.
I dont see why its not a feature that could be put natively into a piece of dj software, theres nothing illegal about putting it in there, just some use of it could be seen as illeagle… that said i can think of a billion features i would prefer to see them work on before this
I think there is some work going on in this area. Google “dj song request app” Even Itunes has a remote app for requests, but thats on a private network.
Ideally:
Users could give real time ratings of a current set or track
Users could make requests
Users get past and future playlist
Users could get links to songs (like Shazam/Soundcloud, but exact track is pushed)
*DJ gets user feedback
*DJ gets ptr to requested track (download link if not present in collection)
*various knobs/controls/settings for the above..
*some cross promotional marketing? ads?
What am I missing? My friends and I have been discussing doing this, but my hands are full with one successful startup at the moment..
We had a guy from Spotify on the forum a few months back and he was explaining how he thought a users suggestion to be able to DJ with Spotify thru Traktor was a cool idea but he said from a legal stand point there is no way they can possibly allow it.
He said that Spotify just couldnt deal with the heat, i mean the big labels would hammer them in a heartbeat.
Essentially what YOU want is a completely free method of playing music to a crowd .. to which I say - not gonna happen, certainly not legally.
What the Music industry (and law) want is for you to buy your musically legally.
Now your options will at best probably be:
Buy music (iTunes) put it on your cloud acc, and stream it (not implemented yet).
Buy it and download it mid-set and play it - already possible
I just can’t see your method being viable considering the heat that various streaming sites are under at the moment… e.g. Letsmix just closed down due to royalty issues, Megavideo/upload ..
sound cloud streaming however MAY be a viable option so long as the original artist gives the rights to “Gig Stream”* on their track when uploading.
Of course that limits your music variety to pretty unknown stuff - nice gimmick though.
it can allready be done in traktor WITH MUSIC YOU OWN. setup a nas box at home or just make a folder network mapped. map your nasbox/folder via the ip as a network harddrive. ok your ip might change so use somthing like a dynamic dns service to update the ip and you can see all your home music where ever you are. you might have to do a few things with port forwarding on your router to get it to work.
just use the file browser and click on the drive. I wouldnt add them to your traktor collection cuz when u disconnect from the drive it would be a nightmare.
An option NI could use is streaming on beatport. as they are in control of the licence agreement. would just have to look at cost of service.
WHAT?
then how the hell are you supposed to play music? how can you distinguish what youre playing from where? you can have the same files in itunes and a different folder for Traktor etc?
what the hell does this mean, and why on earth is it the case??