Numark iDJ for iPad review

Numark iDJ for iPad review

I bought the app when I read the DJ TechTools article. It seemed like fun and there haven’t been anything like it in the App Store before. I started to write my first impressions and it turned out to a full review.

It definitely feels like beta. Right off the bat on a freshly rebooted iPad with iOS 4.2 GM and no other apps running, iDJ is really slow. The UI is stuttery and scrolling is sometimes worse than on an Android phone. That said, the design is intuitive and very iPad-esque and the concept great so that was enough for me to spend a few hours (well, days) with the app despite the lukewarm welcoming.

It is very straightforward to load up tracks from the iPod library (though it takes time) and get started. I fired up my favorite house playlist with 235 songs and that was probably a bad idea. I had to cancel because it took ages. The software even warns you about this, though iDJ resumes the process from where it was left off should you ever quit the application. During import, tracks are analyzed for tempo and key and the BPM detection has yet to fail me with a single song. It’s been spot on all the time, even with tracks that I’ve had to tap out manually in Traktor Pro! A minor issue is the ability to mass delete tracks, or rather the lack of. It seems iDJ converts tracks and stores them somewhere else so it’s a good idea to only have select songs in the library if storage is scarce. It’s worth mentioning that you need iOS 4.2 to be able to use your iPod library - older versions will need tracks to be added manually through iTunes’ documents tab.

I don’t know exactly why iDJ is distributed by Numark - it’s more or less a light version of the excellent desktop DJ DAW MixMeister Fusion, with the same MixMeister technology underpinnings. This is in contrast to the newly release djay app from Algoriddim, which is a traditional two deck and mixer setup. iDJ instead lets you mix music in a digital audio workstation environment. Great for making promos.

The learning curve is almost non existent. To begin mixing, tap on the song you want and tap the plus button to add it to the playlist. Do it once more and iDJ will automatically add an 8 beat match transition between the two. There’s also a Mix Now button that will make a transition on-the-fly. Let the track play and wait for the exact moment you want to bring in the next track and hit Mix Now. Voila, iDJ will beat match and cut out the unneeded parts of the songs. That’s the idea anyway, but since the UI is so slow, the song rarely drops where you hit the button which obviously renders the feature quite useless. Of course, you can always make adjustments later or assign your own transitions. More on that later.

Playback controls control, well, playback, and the skip buttons are very useful for jumping between transitions to make sure every mix sound right. Re-ordering songs and adding new ones in the middle of a mix is a no-brainer and iDJ won’t ever mess up the upcoming transitions in your set should you change a track somewhere in the mix. You can have up to four songs playing at the same time but I don’t see much use for this feature given how busy the already petite timeline will get. It only gives room for two stacked tracks - the other two will overlap the first ones and make things very hard, nay impossible, to manage.

I put together a mix tape with 9 tracks in an hour right after purchase, but unfortunately the app crashed after the 5th track and I had to do it all over again. That was quickly done since I remembered all my transitions and had become familiar with the software, but it’s worrying to see that the app doesn’t autosave continuously like iMovie for example. Again, very beta. The second time I made sure to quit the app a few times to save my progress. It crashed multiple times the day after when I randomly tapped the mix library button. I also experienced a few sporadic sound issues with music that kept playing even though the player was stopped and warped sound. Irratic and bothersome to say the least.

Put simply: the transitions sound great. The BPM detection is indeed remarkable and does a great job of beat matching. There’s no need to adjust tempo - iDJ does it for you in a very elegant manner. Select a 130 BPM track and a 127 BPM one and tempo will automatically slow down during the transition until it reaches 127. Very simple and I couldn’t hear the change. Impressive. There’s a bunch of different transitions to choose from, ranging from simple cuts, crossfades, 8, 16, 32 or 64 beat matches, a bass cutter that will cut the bass on the first track and a cool one called ping pong that’ll apply a gater-like effect for 8 counts. Interestingly, the 8 beat match is actually 32 counts, the 16 beat match is 64 counts and so on. To shorten a track, simply drag its ends toward the middle. I did not discover this feature at first - there are no markers indicating it’s possible - but I’m glad I’d did since it’s essential. It works very much like in GarageBand on the Mac.

On a less positive note, there is no way to control EQ or gain manually. It would be awesome if iDJ would let you zoom in on a part of the timeline were the transition is and adjust differently colored lines representing volume for his, mids, lows and master, like you can do in MixMeister Fusion on the Mac. I’ve had issues with distortion when two bass lines play together, but it’s nice to see that the software is smart enough to alleviate the problem most of the time. Still, an EQ for expressive mixing is high on the wish list. Dare I ask for a filter, too?

Speaking of zooming, this is done in a typical iOS way by pinching the timeline. Even though the app does a great job of taking care of the tempo, you’d probably want to keep the flow in the mix by respecting the 32 beat sections of most tracks and a larger view of the timeline helps significantly with this task. A maddening behavior is that the zoom level keeps reverting back to default when any changes are made. It’s not even possible to zoom in and skip to another part of the track without iDJ zooming back out. It makes the zoom feature essentially useless - you can look but you can’t touch anything. In addition, the zoom is far too sensitive to be easy to use. Another problem is that the playhead is always in focus, making the view panel follow it relentlessly, which is especially annoying on high zoom levels and makes a fine tuning an unnecessary chore. A way to mute everything but the highlighted track would also be a welcome addition as things easily get noisy trying to find the sweetspot in a new song when the previous track’s constantly banging in the background, but it’s not a deal breaker.

Then again, iDJ is not meant to be a professional DJ programming tool. Numark pitches this as a tool to create seamless playlists. However, I see enormous potential in iDJ so I really wish it had these features.

Below is mix that I made during my review of the app.

Currently there’s no way to export a mix from the software, so I had to record it from the line out. This could very well be a limitation of iOS’ lacking file system, so I won’t blame iDJ, but it’s still a much needed feature for the app to be truly useful. Mixes are saved in the mix library and you can keep as many as you like and make copies, encouraging experiments without the risk of getting screwed.

Notably, the app was released this month and is already at v1.1. In its current state, iDJ doesn’t have the polish or stability that we’ve come to expect from iPad apps, but I really hope that the developer has grand plans for iDJ and that the iPad hardware is up to the task, because with some effort this app could be a real winner among bedroom DJs like myself, music lovers and even pro DJs. It’s never going to replace Traktor for live performances, but that’s really not the point. The point is to make great sounding mix tapes easily and anywhere. I definitely think it’s worth the asking price for anyone interested in DJing, despite the flaws. The potential is just crazy. Did I mention it’s extremely addictive?

iDJ in the App Store.

Here’s the progressive house mix. ~30MB AAC file.

Track list:

  • Amazing (Play & Win Club Version) - Inna
  • Seek Bromance (Avicii’s Vocal Extended) - Tim Berg
  • My Feelings For You (Original Mix) - Avicii
  • Freedom (Andy Harding Remix) - Alex Lamb feat. Christina Skaar
  • Trouble In The Redlight District (Original Mix) - Tomcraft & Jerome Isma-Ae
  • Ready To Go (Leventina Remix) - EDX, Chris Reece & Jerome Isma-Ae
  • Arrival - Gareth Emery feat. Brute Force
  • East Air (Original Mix) - Johan Wedel
  • Luvstruck 2010 (Filthy Rich Remix) - Southside Spinners

Coincidentally, the app is on sale right now.

Damn, that doesn’t sound bad at all. Wish I had an iPad right now. :stuck_out_tongue:

Thank you. Given that the bugs are fixed, it’ll be a breeze doing these kinds of mixes. :slight_smile:

Nice review, appreciated.

just got the app… how can i save my mixes to my PC… ??? any help would be appreciated…

Currently you can’t export easily from iDJ. What I did was connect my iPad to the Mac’s line in with a 3,5mm to 3,5mm cable and used QuickTime to record the playback.

recording for PC

would you have any idea how to record on PC… ???

Speakers out from your iPad to your microphone port on your PC and record with Audacity? Exact same thing, platform doesn’t matter

Apparently, you can load the iDJ mixes into the desktop version of MixMeister. They should appear in iTunes 10 and allow for drag n drop to the computer.

I just got a word from the project manager of MixMeister and iDJ, Simon Bangs. I think it’s great to see that they’re really committed to this product and he also told me his intentions were to make the iPad apps community driven. I asked if I could post his thoughts here and he was very happy to let me do that. Here are his comments:

Hello,
I am the Project Manager for Mixmeister and iDJ.
Thanks for your email! I have put some comments in red below.
Kind Regards
_________________
Simon Bangs
Product Development

It definitely feels like beta. Right off the bat on a freshly rebooted iPad with iOS 4.2 GM and no other apps running, iDJ is really slow…

Comments: Unfortunately iDJ is currently pushing the iPad to the limit of its capability. It is important understand the iPad has the same specifications as an Pentium 3.
0.9 GHZ and 256MB ram. We are very excited with what we have been able to achieve with the hardware. The algorithms being used to detect key and BPM are very powerful and come from over 11 years of research. We suspect (and hope) that the next iPad hardware will benefit from a faster processor and an increased amount of ram.
Ram is very important for audio applications as audio is decoded and buffered in the ram on top of this the iOS device is using this for the OS. On average the iPad uses roughly 100MB of ram for OS purposes which leaves only 150MB or so for apps and other processes. If mail is set to push or bluetooth/wifi is on this also uses allot.

Comments: The iPhone 4 seems perform slightly better with audio apps in my personal experience as it has 512MB ram.
We have put allot of work into optimizing the engine and will continue to do so with updates.

It is very straightforward to load up tracks from the iPod library (though it takes time) and get started…

Comments: Unfortunately large imports can take a while to process this again is due to the specifications of the device. The hand off process is also something which apple provides in the OS.
We are unable to modify how it works in any way. You will notice it is the same import screen for all apps which can take advantage of the iPod database import.
We recommend for best performance importing in batches of 20 tracks if you are in a hurry and have been able to build in a mechanism for this. We have also built in a mechanism to continue your import process when you close the app. Unfortunately its not possible in the OS to background process these tracks when the app is closed. With the desktop versions of Mixmeister we are able to monitor music folders and update the database automatically.
Songs which are imported from the iPod database are not fully duplicated we save a plot file for them and file which allows us to use the song in the itunes database.
Songs which are imported via itunes are saved in local app storage.

I don’t know exactly why iDJ is distributed by Numark - it’s more or less a light version of the excellent desktop DJ DAW MixMeister Fusion, with the same MixMeister technology underpinnings…

Comments: Mixmeister is part of the Numark Industries company group. iDJ is designed to bring the technologies in our popular Mixmeister Express product to the iPad.
The engine is identical to the desktop version but has been optimized for the platform and touch interfaces.

The learning curve is almost non existent…

Comments: Good to hear you found it easy to use that was our intention. Regarding the response of the mix now function this is intended to mix you into the next track on the fly due to the processing power available there is a minor delay while the mix is setup and processed. The software does allot of calculation to make sure you get a smooth mix.

You can have up to four songs playing at the same time but I don’t see much use for this feature given how busy the already petite timeline will get…

Comments: Many of our users use the option to mix up to four tracks at one time to add items such as a synth or base line to their existing tracks or drop in samples/voice overs.
When four tracks are mixed together the engine is designed to take over and manage it for you so that the mix remains in sync.

I put together a mix tape with 9 tracks in an hour right after purchase, but unfortunately the app crashed after the 5th track and I had to do it all over again…

Comments: Sorry to hear you had a problem with the latest 1.2 update the app now auto saves all progress automatically as you go along. We have made further optimizations to the engine also which should remove any crashes. Unfortunately drop outs or warped sound is an indication that your device is low on memory I would recommend turning off any background processes such as push email during performance.

On a less positive note, there is no way to control EQ or gain manually…

Comments: iDJ was designed to be as simple as possible for users so that any one could walk up to it and make a great mix.
By default the app is designed to automate tasks for users if uses want to see more information they are able to view the time line and the information section.
We are working towards making a range of apps one of our ideas is to make a remix centric version with a revised UI to allow for very easy manipulation of tracks.
We are currently looking into how we can best implement this. This may be something for iPad 2 as it is likely to require more resources.

Comments: To suggest tracks which will mix well together we have included the tempo-graph it looks at the changes in tempo between tracks and will show Green (Good Fit) Amber (Ok Fit) Red (Not Ideal) iDJ will always do its best to mix any tracks however.

Currently there’s no way to export a mix from the software, so I had to record it from the line out…

Comments: We are committed to updating the app and are listening to users requests we added in V1.1 the ability to import from iPod database with iOS 4.2.
With 1.2 we added improvements to the engine and support for iPhone and iPod touch. Recording is something we do plan to add as a future update.
Its also possible now as long as the same music is on your device as your PC and Mac to open up your mix in the desktop versions of Mixmeister. Mixes in the desktop versions can also be opened in IDJ only the first four tracks will show however (you can mix up to eight tracks at once on Fusion)

nice review!

Thanks. Much appreciated :slight_smile:

if you could manage to do color his comments in red your copied mail would be perfect :smiley:

… and: nice review :slight_smile:

Didn’t know how to… and now it’s too late to edit :slight_smile: thanks

I just checked the iDJ for creating promos on the plane or similar.
But I can’t find a way to use the created “playlist” on my Mac, so the “as long as you have the tracks on your Mac / PC you can use the Mix with Mixmeister” doesn’t seem to work?

I checked in iTunes my iPhone, but iDJ doesn’t offer me any files to download and also on the iPhone I can’t find any export / mail settings?

Any ideas?

Just a heads up for those of you that are following this app. It runs amazingly well on the iPad2. Really a night and day difference in performance.