pioneer DJM 800 traktor A6 interface
are the faders in a pioneer DJM 800 standard analog resistance faders? did you notice the latency issues with the main in and out with the traktor A6?
Im not too sure what you are asking here. The faders on the 800 are analog and if you are using the A6 to mix externally in Traktor, they really have no connection to the computer at all. The audio is running through the A6 via the RCA outs which means there is no type of digital/computer data running through the mixer.
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the pioneer DJM 800 is a digital mixer. it actually converts analog to digital. 96khrtz
I just had a quick look at the DJM800 and it doesnt appear to have any analog controls in the signal path.
From the manual: The analog signal from the player passes through the shortest signal route, first digitized at 24bit/96kHz through a pro A/D converter where it reaches the digital mixing stage with the best sound possible..
So yes in theory this should add latency to Traktor as you are adding another ADC conversion stage. But wether that latency is a problem is entirely up to your rig and your play style.
The latency introduced by soundcards is down to the Drivers / Software / CPU rather than the components inside them, a stage you will skip inside a mixer.
I doubt anyone can hear/notice the latency - it’s too small to even consider in my opinion.
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when you run your mixer back into the main imput of your A6 for recording if you put the the main out to the amp and try to mix there is a latency making it so you cant dj. set up properly traktor pro 2 has no latency even when set up to 1024 samples process buffer and 4 mila seconds USB buffer. what I am trying to do is use the main in and out for a FX send?
In a digital mixer, there is latency introduced by the conversion from sound input to digital, then sound output to analog.
I can see an edge case where a turntablist using dvs can notice the added latency in really fast cuts, but I doubt it’s a problem in practice.
What you said is factually incorrect. It translates to “traktor has no latency when set up for a 1024 sample buffer and a 4ms UBS buffer” is equivalent to saying 0 = 27.22.
The reason you’re hearing more latency is the buffers and processing you’re using for the send, not the DJM-800.
um I do not know what to say. even while you turn up the latency while using controller vinyl and a A6 there is no difference. i am good at beat matching and i here nothing. traktor and serato are the same. it does not mater how you set them up when you touch the record it instantly moves the track in the computer. that’s why they are so cool. they have that transition between vinyl to digital. the reason why i was hearing my headphones before my speakers was because the headphones were pre to the main out on the A6 witch does have latency.
All digital vinyl systems do have inherent latency. There is no denying that.
Turning up the buffer increases it. If you’re just mixing, you might not notice it, but it’s there.
And, yes, the A6 does it again. If you’re using Traktor as your insert effect, running the loop through it doubles it because there are 2 trips through the laptop involved.
If it’s too much, turn the latency down.
I think he’s got his routing all wrong.
What do you have, DJM800, Audio 6 and what else: CDJ’s, TT’s? Don’t use send return on the mixer for applying traktor efx to the sound, use inputs on your A6 interface and set Traktor decks to Live input
you know what that’s a good idea thanks. but If i put my booth or send out to the A6 main in and set it to live in I think I would get feed back. it would go out my booth or send and back in my mixer and back out my booth or send. if you set the main in and out to FX send and return it does not feed back and you can use traktors recording function.
Wait a second…are you just trying to record?
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ok… the A6 has three sets of ins and outs that are RCA. channel A and B are for turntables or CD decks. main is for recording, live input, and it has the option to be used as a FX send. now we all agree that sending a signal back to the A6 would cause latency. all I as doing was asking if any one had noticed that. now you just have to be careful you don’t put in to something you are getting out of because you will get feedback. I know from a musicians electronics repair shop that the fader on my DJM 800 only costs less than $20 and he said he would fix it for that plus $45 dollars labour.
I have literally no idea what you’re talking about.
There’s something wrong with the fader now? I thought we were talking about latency…
I don’t know what to do I swear to god I make sense!!! have you read the first message on this post. I was just asking if anyone noticed the latency you get with the main in and out on a traktor A6. I already new what was wrong. ok if you still don’t get it ill draw some diagrams or something. I am just joking. I mention the fader in the firs post
me too.
bradley, set only decks A & B to Live input. from your booth/record/main out on the DJM connect to the C deck inputs on the A6 interface and set Traktor on external recording on deck C. I see no reason to have any sort of feedback.
Wiser words have nowt been spoken.
Yes, I did. For reference:
Yes, the actual faders are just linear potentiometers. Exactly which ones, I don’t know. But your question has a lot of sides to it. The DJM-800 is a digital mixer, so the faders are sending a control signal to the mixer’s DSP (digital signal processing) to define the channel’s input level to the mix bus.
And, no, there is no additional latency on the A6’s main input except that you’re apparently running it at 1024 samples latency, as in post #7, which I’ve mentioned.
Now…according to your setup thread, you’re using a DJM-800 and a pair of Stanton turnttables. You mention Traktor Scratch Pro, so I assume you’re using DVS.
1024 samples is a pretty big buffer for digital vinyl. I don’t think I could mix like that, 'cuz we’re talking about >23ms of latency between movement of the record and the control of the audio.
Doubling that latency for reasons that I still don’t understand by running the mixer’s effects loop through the A6 (you still haven’t said why you do this) would make it damn-near impossible to mix. And you still haven’t said why you’re doing it at all.
Your setup also shows an Art USB Mix. I don’t know why or how you’re using this either except that it “was only 80 dollars and does everything [you] need”.
It sounds a lot like you’re trying to use DVS and record off the mixer. But you don’t want to use the mixer’s record output for some reason and appear to not understand the signal routing you’re supposed to use. I asked if you were just trying to record, and you said something about an apparently broken fader (which you never mentioned) and feedback loops that didn’t answer my question.
I’m trying to help, but I still can’t figure out what you actually want. So, again…what are you trying to accomplish?