Richie Hawtin using Abelton Push

[neilmcm]

Richie Hawtin using Abelton Push

Just seen this on Facebook seems he has ditched the Maschine and using push.

[Aleeeeeks]

dooopppness

[beisi]

Maybe this is the Push NI need to finally wise up and integrate Maschine as a type of Traktor deck

[IznremiX]

@beisi

Maybe this is the Push NI need to finally wise up and integrate Maschine as a type of Traktor deck

I hope so. Although I think they are avoiding integrating maschine with traktor because it will cause f1 sales to crash

[balakoth]

@IznremiX

I hope so. Although I think they are avoiding integrating maschine with traktor because it will cause f1 sales to crash

That makes no sense If they integrated it with traktor theyd sell more machines, which btw, is more expensive? More money

[IznremiX]

@balakoth

That makes no sense If they integrated it with traktor theyd sell more machines, which btw, is more expensive? More money

EDIT: I was waaaaay off with my thinking

[Stewe]

Probably replaced a maschine to control ableton. More buttons - more power.

[smiTTTen]

I’m ditching buttons altogether. Gonna be the first Leap Motion DJ

[smiTTTen]

Minus the leaping. Motion may be somewhat limited too…

[johnnypepp]

just bought a maschine myself, if they would open up maschine integration or even remix deck control I would still buy an f1 for the last deck… seeing the article on the cover of the blog atm I hope they make fast work of it. it just makes no sense keeping things split up while big names who push your products are motivating people to include these products in their setups. come on NI I think this is the most wanted feature atm.

[BestLegsinHD]

+1 on limited motion. seems like a lot of work. new DJ name : DJ SitDown

[smiTTTen]

DJ Someone Bring Me A Cup Of Tea I’m Gasping Here

[jdownesbaird]

@IznremiX

heres the way I see it, not trying to make ni look like some monster, but this does seem to be their business model. the demand for the f1 arose because everyone and their mom wanted traktor and maschine integration. maschine had already sold very well and they wouldn’t have very many new sales if they just created a traktor/maschine bridge because many traktor users already owned a maschine. Instead of giving people the integration that they wanted, they made a new dummed down version of maschine (the remix decks and f1), forcing people to spend an extra 250 to get a watered down version of what they’ve been asking for years.

i like the f1 a lot, I have two of them. But they are definitely lacking a lot of important features that are in maschine. In essence, instead of making the f1 they could have made a much better product by making a solid platform for maschine integration

I completely disagree. Maschine and F1 do different things. Having Maschine integrated into Traktor doesn’t mean it will control remix decks. I have both Maschine and F1, and I want my F1 to control remix decks and Maschine to play live beats/loops/etc. right into Traktor, all synced up and ready for Traktor’s effects. How in the world is the F1 a “dumbed down version of Maschine”? It’s designed for cueing loops in Traktor (which it does excellently), not for finger drumming, production, step sequencing, etc. People didn’t buy the F1 because they couldn’t get “Traktor and Maschine integration”. They serve completely different purposes, and there is benefit to owning both depending on your performance needs.

[jdownesbaird]

@Stewe

More buttons - more power.

Put that on a T-shirt, Stewe! That should be your motto!

[kooper1980]

@jdownesbaird

I completely disagree. Maschine and F1 do different things. Having Maschine integrated into Traktor doesn’t mean it will control remix decks. I have both Maschine and F1, and I want my F1 to control remix decks and Maschine to play live beats/loops/etc. right into Traktor, all synced up and ready for Traktor’s effects. How in the world is the F1 a “dumbed down version of Maschine”? It’s designed for cueing loops in Traktor (which it does excellently), not for finger drumming, production, step sequencing, etc. People didn’t buy the F1 because they couldn’t get “Traktor and Maschine integration”. They serve completely different purposes, and there is benefit to owning both depending on your performance needs.

Thank God. Someone finally speaking sense!! Hawtin hasn’t ditched the maschine because it doesn’t integrate with Traktor! He’s still potentially using the push to control a second piece of software.

Really don’t get how people think the remix decks are in anyway there to prevent maschine integration. Maschine wasn’t invented for use with traktor. It’s production software.

[beisi]

@kooper1980

Thank God. Someone finally speaking sense!! Hawtin hasn’t ditched the maschine because it doesn’t integrate with Traktor! He’s still potentially using the push to control a second piece of software.

Really don’t get how people think the remix decks are in anyway there to prevent maschine integration. Maschine wasn’t invented for use with traktor. It’s production software.

agree

ideally I would have two track decks, one remix deck and maschine, that would awesome if it was integrated with no need to fool around with midi clock

[IznremiX]

@jdownesbaird

I completely disagree. Maschine and F1 do different things. Having Maschine integrated into Traktor doesn’t mean it will control remix decks. I have both Maschine and F1, and I want my F1 to control remix decks and Maschine to play live beats/loops/etc. right into Traktor, all synced up and ready for Traktor’s effects. How in the world is the F1 a “dumbed down version of Maschine”? It’s designed for cueing loops in Traktor (which it does excellently), not for finger drumming, production, step sequencing, etc. People didn’t buy the F1 because they couldn’t get “Traktor and Maschine integration”. They serve completely different purposes, and there is benefit to owning both depending on your performance needs.

touche i suppose i was looking at it with a pretty narrow view haha

[kooper1980]

@IznremiX

touche i suppose i was looking at it with a pretty narrow view haha

This is the general problem with software upgrades/implementation, (and I’m not in anyway having a dig at you when I say this) but a handful of users request a certain feature and they automatically assume that its a feature that ALL users want. When in reality its a very small percentage. Same as flexible beat grids.

[Nicky_H]

The Push looks fantastic - nicest bit of kit out for quite a while imo

[Patch]

Buttons. Maybe he just likes the FEEL of the buttons. I doubt he’s using The Push as it is designed to be used (ie - for production) on stage. So I bet he’s just using it to launch clips.

These DJ’s can afford to buy and use hardware however they like.

I wouldn’t take this as an endorsement of The Push*. Other than the fact that it MIGHT have “nicer” feeling buttons than the maschine…

*The Push doesn’t NEED endorsement. It is AWESOME for production.