I am a recent convert to TSP from Serato and am loving everything so far. So many possibilities! My setup is pretty complex and I am hoping to get some help.
This is my gear list:
Audio 10 - TSP2
Kontrol S4
2 Kontrol X1s
Maschine
Pioneer DJM 800
2 Technics 1210 MK5s
I need to know what you think the best setup would be. I put it all together tonight with my turntables taking up Channels 3 & 4 (Deck A & B) on the Audio 10. I thought I would just run the s4 (Decks C & D) to the input on Channel 2, but didn’t think that I wouldn’t be able to do that because I now am trying to use 2 soundcards.
So, my question is, what would you suggest? I want to still use my Pioneer 800 as my mixer with everything running through it. This is my layout represented with words:
Audio 10
Laptop - Kontrol X1 - Kontrol s4 - Kontrol X1 - Maschine
Turntable - Mixer - Turntable
Do I route the S4 THROUGH the Audio 10? Do I get rid of the Audio 10?? I am at a loss.
If you have enough power with your computer you could run both traktor and ableton together by internally rerouting inputs and outputs inside the box with a program like soundflower or jack. This will allow multitrack recording of your mixes, vst effects as well as easily letting you use your maschine as well, id keep the audio 10, soundcards are pretty useful peices of kit. There are quite a few different but very fucking respectable setups you could have with all your different gear, i would experiment and see what you like the most.
A soundcard Aggregator might help you do what you want to do with your s4 as it will make multiple soundcards appear as one soundcard to your computer.
A sound card aggregator? Any suggestions for which one? I’ve just never heard of that before.
I actually think I am going to run Ableton and Traktor as suggested. I just really want to be able to use the tables for decks 1 & 2 and the S4 for 3 & 4. I will use the X1s and Maschine for live remixing and effects/cues/loops/etc.
Ahh, i’ve just read that by aggregating soundcards you will actually loose timecode ability, because the soundcard you will be selecting in preferences won’t be traktor certified, so that probably won’t be the solution, tried the s4 with timecodes?
You should in theory be able to run all 4 decks through the audio 10 and mixer and use the s4 purely as a controller, without having to run any audio cables from it, but ive never tried it so i can’t say from experience.
My honest suggestion is to ditch the S4. X1s and TSP give you more control unless you really need extra knobs and faders laid out like a mixer that you’re not going to use.
But that’s just my opinion, and I should point out that I hate all-in-one units because they seem to be really limiting.
Also, what are you using Maschine for? Is it just a controller, or are you actually using it as a groove box…because that slightly complicates the setup, depending on what you want to do.
I don’t know if you have seen DJ Endo’s “Mothership” setting, but I was going to do something like that. Now that I think about It, it may make sense just to use the S4 and the X1s and just use the turntables in a true sense and not to control the time code.
Also, let’s say I used the S4 and X1s and the tables just for scratching. Can I use my 800 as my mixer instead of the S4 mixer (i.e. output the S4 through the 800)?
Go to the traktor bible site they have a tutorial for using external mixing with the S4 and also a tutorial on how to use more then one audio interface. To be honest i would ditch either the s4 or the TT if you wanna use external mixing. If i where you ill keep the S4 with the x1 and machine (like Dj Endo and the mothership) that would be my dream setup!!!
Amazing Setup men!!! do some videos of you using all the stuff and when possible add an ipad for a total control over traktor ableton and whatever you f****** want !!!
He’s using 12-decks worth of control attached to 4-deck software.
He brags about computer specs that Traktor couldn’t use when this video was recorded.
He’s using Maschine–one of the most impressive pieces of music technology to come out in years–as a dumb controller…and not even using it to its potential as that.
He’s got 6 effects units worth of control…and using 2.
They’re both on for all the decks when they’re not being used, which means he might be using them as master effects.
I didn’t notice him say what the other X1’s knobs are doing…unless he’s mapped them to FX 1 & 2, in which case he has 3 pots and an encoder for each effect parameter spread across 4 controllers instead of doing something useful with them.
He doesn’t actually show any real mixing, despite saying he would do a 4-deck mix.
He’s calmly red-lining the mixer the entire time, which might not be an issue because of a DJM-800 feature that he doesn’t mention.
He’s calmly red-lining Traktor the entire time, which means that either he’s clipping his sound card outputs or destroying dynamic range with Traktor’s limiter, which also sounds like dog shit…and probably also clips the sound card because I don’t think it’s aware of intersample modulation distortion…which is probably the smallest issue in the video for me.
The only good piece of advice he gave was using a powered hub…except that my un-powered hub works just fine with 2 X1s and Maschine (on the low-power port of a MBP; and actually using the Maschine to control Maschine instead of Traktor) and the S4 has it’s own wall wart, which is necessary for the LEDs to be usable in that lighting.
Seriously…DJ Endo should serve only as an example of what not to do.
I’d ditch the S4. if you run maschine I think you can route the traktor channels into maschine and then out to the 800 via the audio 10, at least I remember reading something like that
You can. It takes up a sound to do it, and I haven’t found a reason to do it that way unless you really want to use plug-in effects…and add a good bit of latency in the process.
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