Songs with short intro.

Songs with short intro.

Hi,

I mix with Serato Itch (and 2 numark V7), but I soon gonna change my hardware for CDJ, and I won’t use any software, I never watch the screen (except to match the BPMs).

I have difficulties in making good transitions when a song has an intro w/o “kicks”, I mean, boring to indentify the first beat, some time the first beat starts as soon as the first note, sometime not, so I’m forced in helping myself with the beat grid.

Would some one know how to help with this?

Thanx.

Not to be rude but…

Use your ears and learn how to do harmonic mixing.

You boast about not looking at the screen except when matching the BPM. So you’re one of those “virtual DJ” guys who rely on visual beat matching rather than the conventional and traditional proper way of mixing music using ears. :roll_eyes:

There are MANY ways to skin a cat.

Loops?

FX at the end of the playing track…enabling an transition…

Many ways bro…

Be Creative!

This!

It’s the best way to turn a short song into a long one IMO. Looping the intro/outro can turn a 60 sec song into a 3-4min song.

Love a good loop. Just gotta time it right, get counting.

Dunno what that means… :confused:

If I have a song with a beatless intro I loop part of the outro beats and then flick it to the 1st cuepoint when the other track ends/breaks down etc

When you start playing on cd’s you will either have to:

a: Get some skill, and that takes practice, not a bpm counter.

b: Re-edit the tracks in your DAW of choice, then you can stick with your bpm counter and lack of skill.

You didn’t understand what I meaned, I was talking about looking at the BPM displayed in Serato, not the wave form, to beat match I use cue.

[quote]There are MANY ways to skin a cat.

Loops?

FX at the end of the playing track…enabling an transition…

Many ways bro…

Be Creative! [/quote]

I thought of this, kind of making a loop (around 8-16 beats) that starts where I wanna make the transition, then deplace it so it ends where I wanna make the transition ?

I wanna add something, seems you guys are angry about using bpm counter (ok, no one wants his DJ to be looking at the screen of his laptop during the whole party), but bpm counter is really helpfull for most of DJs, allows to have more time to do something more creative than switching from A to B.

And most of the songs I’m talking about are beatless outros too, I’m talking about hiphop, dancehall, reggaeton, bachata, merengue songs, far different from house or other electronic music with 5 sec of acapella every 3 minutes.
When I can have some instrumentals, I create extended intro songs.

if you have no beat at the start. do what we used to do with vinyl and put the needle down further in the track to allow yourself to beat match. having no beat at the start then makes no difference if you’ve properly beat matched.

Stop just mixing intros, makes your mix boring do always do one technique. Just move along to the body of the song and mix the meat into the meat using EQs to prevent clashing and jumps in volume.

(lol “I never watch the screen (except to match the BPMs).”) :stuck_out_tongue:

by this sentence i meaned “setting bpms so they are the same”.

Yeah that’s pretty much why I laughed. It’s a bit like saying “I’m a runner, I never use my car, except for when I need to get to places”

Nothing wrong with syncing, just don’t pretend to be beat matching :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Yeah thats why I was a bit arsey …
Nothing wrong with sync or using the bpm counter mate.

If there are no beats in your intro or outro? like you say then you will have to try different styles of mixing than beatmatching or find some beats you can use in the track.

@DeejayAlex

To mix intros and outros by ear you just need to know how many counts long they are. Once you know that you can mix them in anyway you like.

Beatmatch the songs using a percussive portion of the track and then re-cue back to the beginning of your intro when you are ready to mix in.

heres a vid w/ a few basic techniques from DJTT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIsPx-8-_Is&feature=player_embedded#!

Not beatmatching by ear aint beatmatching for you ? Excuse me sir, you surely have mixed for 20 years and you’re angry about newbies who mixe as well as you do, easiest than you do, maybe you also walk on your hand because its harder.

I add that I didn’t post this topic to debate about BPM counter as many do to reassure themselves they are not like others.

Dude, like I said, nothing wrong with it at all. In fact I’m pro alternative methods. If you’re more creative than I am go and do something crazy instead of spending your time beat matching!

Thanks and sorry, english is not my mother tongue, I perceived your post as agressive.

Yeah sorry dude I’m a bit of an asshole to be honest.

no worry, everyone has a piece of assholeness.

let’s back on the topic, I post 2 songs (not electronic music), tell how’d you do to make the transition on the 1st chorus of the incoming song.

Outgoing song:

Incoming Song:

(you dont have to hear the outgoing song anylonger after 00:20)

You could do something like this: http://www51.zippyshare.com/v/36610205/file.html
One song is pretty much double the bpm of the other.

ps: Don’t make fun of my scratching I play house.