Using Transitional Tracks (125-81bpm)

Using Transitional Tracks (125-81bpm)

I purchased some transition tracks from strictlyhits.com to be able to jump my current music from 125bpm-81bpm as well as 89bpm-126bpm. After 6 months of DJing, I notice that I have to crawl around my playlists for songs within 10-20bpm range in order to get to a song being requested thats out of this range.

While its easy to fade into the transitional track, I have to manualy sync out of it. Because Traktor still thinks the transition track is 125bpm though its now in the 81bpm portion.

Are transitional tracks meant to be used for serato users or is there a way I can use these in Traktor Pro. I know I can set up multiple grid markers but when I adjust the second grid marker to the secondarly BPM, it adjusts the first one as well. Is there a work around and if not, what do you recommend doing in order to keep the current momemtum on the dance floor and still change up the tempo to introduce slower or faster paced songs?

Are you wanting to actually beatmatch these transitions? Personally if i’m gonna change the BPM by more than say 10 i would actually consider doing a “soft” mix, as even with keylock some tracks sound shit when slowed down/sped up too much.

What I would do it rename the id3 song name to Artist - Song - 81 BPM - 126 BPM so you know that the next track you load has to be around 126 bpm and you can manually adjust the tempo.

Heres the link of the transition I purchased:

Right Round It’s Goin Down (Transition Down 125-80)

Its pretty good and would work well if traktor new that this song was actually 2 different BPMs.

I am currently loading a track an manually setting it to 80bpm to fade into, on the fly right on time with the clap from the transition track.

If you right click on the TEMPO +/- it comes up with Min/fine/default/course/switch. Even at “min” I can only get the next track to 80.06 BPM, which isn’t noticable at first, but I would expect a little more precession.

I’m just…I’m just really confused as to why you would need a “transitional track” wouldn’t it be just as easy to pre-mix these? or even do these mixes live?

confused

I’m not “hating” i’m just…confused.

Sure I could premix it, or I could pay someone else :slight_smile: I work full time and while I made my own stuff, I was just blown away by some of this material. Which I thought would inspire me to make my own if I ever get to that level. But for $3, I thought, that would save me a lot of time at the moment.

So wait…you mean I could start an entire business around me doing short 1 minute mixes?? shocked

Yep it’s really a shame that people don’t even scratch the surface of what their DJ software can do .

Im a bit confused with this one as well.
If you have to change from 89bpm to 126 bmp then theres not enough programing going on in your set. You must have a few tunes to put inbetween that can make the transition easier.
Its not hard to go from R&B to House tempo if you program the set right and remember some tracks have intros that need to whacked straight in.

If a track starts at 89bpm theres no reason why it shouldnt be 95bpm by the time your ready to mix in the next track that starts at 95bpm by gradually increasing the bpm . Do this with 3 tracks and your ready to start the house mix.

You mentioned Flo Rida… “Low” was a great example of an ‘R&B’ track that leads perfectly into dance. The Intro is one of those that you can simply drop out of any other R&B track. Dont feel that you HAVE to beatmatch all tracks. Thats just crap. The last few bars of that track are perfect for looping and mixing in your first housey 125bpm track .

Your wasting your money buying ‘Transition Tracks’ in fact i never knew they existed. Someone is making money from doing fuck all.
And in all honesty making money from what you should be doing your self by what i like to call… DJing.
(i hope that doesnt sound to twatish, im just saying).

what i do when i’m moving from house into some more upbeat prog or trance, is use a “transition” track with a nice long break near the end with no hats, snares or anything in it to make the tempo shift less obvious, and bump up the bpm say from 128-138 during that break for example. Using the master sync bring the other track up including the beats in that break, loop the first track when it kicks back in with lows and maybe highs killed, and ur away laffing. :stuck_out_tongue: Just takes some experimentation, practise and some lateral thinking (and being drunk)

using fx like a flanger on a breakdown sometimes works well for masking your bpm changes too

ok…im f’en pissed off, I just uploaded a video to youtube to show you guys how to go from 85 bpm to 130 & 130 BPM to 95 BPM and it got booted for copyright.

Its a f’en remix! WTF! “This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by WMG”
Thats bullshit! Youtube sux!

what a waste of time.

*** Edit ***

i uploaded the tracks to imeem (viva napster j/k)

Kid Cudi - Day N Nite 130 bpm to 95 bpm

Depeche Mode Vs New Order - Wrong Monday 85 bpm to 130 bpm

or this one made it on youtube

I upload the DM Vs New Order to soundcloud

https://soundcloud.com/jesc/dm-vs-new-order-wrong-monday-jesc-edit

Cant get the vids working dude, i wanna see the DM vs NO one :stuck_out_tongue:

if a transition is yet to tough to perform it yourself, i wouldn’t mind anyone using a transition track. it’s still better than f’cking the transition up imo. what you should do is change the bpm of the song in traktor while it plays if you want it to be synced on both ends. i do this all the time when i switch from a recorded mix of mine running on a house party (which runs while i’m drinking, chatting, we.) to actually performing myself. i can’t beatmatch myself really so that works for me.

i probably wouldn’t even hate on a “dj” spinning a prerecorded mix if that at least keeps him from messing up the whole mix because he sucks at what he’s doing lol (which happens to be with alot of so called djs)

also i would prefer to record a transition myself instead of using someone else’s transition and then finally of course learn to perform it live because at the end thats what djing is all about, isn’t it. :slight_smile:

like the transition on day 'n nite house to dubstep! thumbs up

Here you go

https://soundcloud.com/jesc/dm-vs-new...nday-jesc-edit

Yeah, I’m with JesC. Just do the mix yourself. It’s not that hard. And if you’re buying other peoples transitions, isn’t that just like paying someone else to DJ for you?

QFT!

I know that my edits were no perfect, i only spent about 5 min on each one, but if you are serious about using tracks like this to go from 90 bpm to 130 bpm, just make it on ur own.

You can go from 90 to 120 in a sudden jump on the fly live if you cut our from a nice if you drop in your track on the downbeat of the 90 track then start using cue points to cut the 90bmp track in time with the 120bmp track.

For this kind of a mix if your going up you want to go down dramaticly you times your track bpm by 0.75 and if you want to go up dramatically you times by 1.3333333333

As long as your using the right portions of the track to do these tempo changes then your mix is gonna sound nice :slight_smile: After you finished doing this pat yourself on the back because it is certainly one of the more advanced mixing techniques that we have at our disposals, its also alot more rewarding and fun to execute than putting on a track that does the same thing.

Theres no reason why you have to make or buy a tracks to do these kinds of transitions for you - do it on the fly live for 100x the style and skill points :stuck_out_tongue:

It seems shocking to me as a MAJOR part of my style is moving from different BPMs all night and still keeping my floor.

If I had all my tempo changes pre-made I’d be spending half my night on my bum drinking a jack and coke.

Sometimes the best tempo change mixes don’t involve BPM change at all. Not all mixes have to be beatmatched with perfect seamless integration.

Also, FWIW, that ‘transition track’ in the OP, kinda sucked IMO. It could have been waaaay cooler if done live and creatively.

Hey Jess i checked the DM/NO trak out on soundcloud there after having to sign up lol. Nicely done dude, thats pretty much how i do tempo changes when i go from say prog up to goa etc. Dang i feel like doing a new mashup now ha hmm, blue monday (hardfloor version) vs ? *

*suggestions