Threre kind of dogging Ean on Serato.
Check out the thread over at Serato.com
http://serato.com/forum/discussion/276990
I haven’t seen that kind of over-inflated-ego-fueled hatred since my days of the online guitar forums. Not only do many of them bash digital-djing/controllerism, they bash eachother.
Man I love DJTT!
those wave riders can kiss my ass! dont even get me on serato dj’s and how stupid they sound with there auto loop rolls and triple airhorns…Serato may not have a sync button, but they fools have a visual autobpm
right in the center of serato live is your visual autobpm…
lol…
funniest part
“Thats why qbert still uses REAL vinyl…”
cant remember the rest, just reminds me of this vid
my hat goes off to scratchworx for backing up ean & the djtt site
hmm
would u happen to have been active in ultimate-guitar?
-gm
‘It’s all about the music’ - and the people who forget that ARE actually dinosaurs, sorry.
And it isn’t just Serato users… I’ve seen this on other forums too.
There are a lot of great people on that forum, but there are a few over there that quite frankly, just hate for the love of hating. I’m surprised Ean even waded in amongst the sharks…
Lesson learned: don’t feed the trolls.
Phil.
damn i must have been reading this for the last 30 mins and heck Ean gave them a piece of his mind. I guess great minds think alike…cuz ean called these foo out on the visual autobpm, LOL.
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Chances are high no one will even read this far but here it goes anyway:
First of all- I am stoked that the video sparked so much love and hate on both sides. That’s a great sign- it means this type of djing is hitting a nerve. I switched to djing with a mixer and a controller over 6 years ago (after playing with turntables since 96) and we have come a long way since then. This video is one more step towards creating a dj interface that is musical, fun and exciting to watch.
SYNC
I used sync about 50% of the time on the drops in instances where it gave me time to do other things. I have 4 controls at the bottom of the midi-fighter which match turntables (pitch, tempo +/-) so manual beat matching is used when its needed.
In the times when there is no time for manual beatmatching or no benefit to the mix then I use the miracle of addition and subtraction to help me out a little bit.
An interesting side note- Many Serato djs basically use sync and dont even realize it. They match the BPMs visually as Serato display’s the relative BPM of the playing track and then match the waveforms visually to line up the phase. After this VISUAL SYNC they then adjust the phase and BPM more precisely by ear to get the blend perfect.
How people can criticize folks for using a single button press to accomplish a VISUAL SYNC more precisely is beyond me. When Sync is used, additional adjustments to tempo or phase are almost always needed in the club as no 2 tracks line up perfectly. It’s this final step that is most critical and can not be skipped. How you get to that 2nd step; visualy, by by ear or using a button should not really matter.
CHALLENGE
The challenge here was to dj with only 16 buttons per deck and do some creative and interesting things with it. I encourage you try something new sometime- it may not stick but you will grow as a performer.
I practiced this routine for at least 1 month, and there is no disputing that the mixes pulled off are very challenging to do- even when sync is used from time to time. We have a contest on DjTechTools.com where people can take the songs and create their own mix interpretations. I encourage everyone to completely show me up and do something 10 million times better on turntables, CDJ’s, guitars or whatever you happen to enjoy. At the end of the day the only thing that matters is:
*how did the music sound
*how expressive was the performance
*did you have fun? [/quote]
agreed, cost my house so many points, thank god we had harry
-gm
Added some oil to the fuel.
These people sound like a lot of DJs I know, which I didn’t invite to our holy Midi Fight Club because that would just be a disgrace.
YES ACTUALLY!!!:eek::eek:
How did you know?
It’s really funny to see the thread quickly turn into an us and them (to be fair it seemed like there were only really 2 people doing the “anti button pushing” responses).
What they all seemed to forget (or ignored IMO) is that the point of this video was to really showcase what was possible with Midifighters in general by having two set up with the “Deckalized” mapping? This is a product that DJTT and Ean have developed from an idea through to production and utilisation of software for functionality (ie Traktor), he is extending the possibilities of his product. Good on him I say?
They are all going on like he is promoting this as the end of turntable mixing, just buy midifighters? No, I think we all realise that this is not the case, I actually feel sorry for them that this hits so much of a nerve and they are so set in their ways that they don’t realise what is out there!!!
Hahahaha, just read the bit where that guy said “there are infinite things you can do with a turntable!”. Yeah, cos my 1200’s came packed with effects, looping, waveforms, kitchen sink, cure for cancer and the meaning of life.
Infinite fail.
There is little point getting involved in these discussions. Some people are just ‘change-averse’.
Hm, guess I’ll have to install the latest Traktor patch. The one I have doesn’t have the last few features. 
that dylan goes electric/dj picture is hilarious
cue gregorian choir chants
pie MIDI domine, dona eis frequiem…
pie MIDI domine, dona eis frequiem…
I lurk on the Serato forum quite a lot.
Let me tell these idiots are NOT as few and far between.
Of course most SSL uses are cool but there is a cuture on that board of pissing on anything non-serato, much much more so than on the NI board.
I’ve been slagged off by name.
I’ve read many little digs at djtts on there.
Even when they aren’t slagging NI or Traktor or DJTTs or controllerism and microwave djs they are slagging something or someone else. They piss and moan just about everything.
My Serato using friends hate that board.
My Serato using friends think Traktor is cool cus they aren’t stuck in a mindset.
The most massive MEH !!! it’s possible to do.
The wierd thing is the Serato forums also contain the Serato “Itch” forums, …which don’t seem to have any of the attitude problems that the “scratch” forums have!