Timecode CDs : Cue on CDs looses inicial Attack

Timecode CDs : Cue on CDs looses inicial Attack

Hi and thanks in advance for all the help you may provide.
I got faced with a problem that I really need help solving/ understanding.

With TS DUO using the CDs (pioneer CDJ-1000MK3) with timecode controlling the decks, when I make a cue (with the Cd) and the release you can clearly tell that it’s not jumping back exactly to the same spot. The first time I cue it’s perfect, but all the others it’s like it jumps a little ahead of where I really placed the Cue point on the CD (on the CD I check and on the display it shows exactly the cue point time, and it’s always spot on to the frame).

I know visually this can happen in Traktor, I know tracktor needs a few milliseconds to read and interpret te timecode signal/ position… BUT … if swapped to my MBP with TS PRO and this does not happen!

I am ??? , I’ve tried messing with buffers, and everything I could think of and still this happens in TS DUO…

I do understand the need to read the timecode before traktor can go to the play position but this just falls appart the soon it happens only in TS DUO, and even there every few times it does perform as it should but most time it doesn’t!!

HELP ??

Z

the “Snap” function should help clear that up,
It sets your cue points directly to the grid marker you press cue nearest to.

dont think snap will sort it. Its exactly the same for me. Dont think there is anyway round it. Basically the cue function on the cds is a bit rubbish with timecode and traktor.

Its not down to where the cus is set its due to the fact that the track doesnt reset backto the cue point in traktor until your press the cue button again so i think a split secodn is used for the reset or jump back by which time the timecode is past the actual first part of teh cue. It sounds rubbish doesnt it :disappointed:

Yeah… absolute bonkers …
In fact I’ve even tryed reverse kung fu, lol, where I would set the cue a few frames Behind the point where I actually wanted it but still to no avail. The prob is not so much that it cuts out a little bit but the fact that when cue is pressed on the CDJs the traktor cue will not return to exactly the same point every time …

With TS PRO this just doesn’t happen !?

Also if you have TS PRO installed you can’t really run TS DUO so some of the things I can’t really test out unless I’m @ my shop :disappointed:

the only thing I could muster was maybe this goes on because by default TS Duo will set the cue deck as Master, but I’ve loaded and set to master deck B and still got the same random behavior from Deck A cue.

As to the suggested Snap feat I think You can’t really turn on or off in TS DUO, and still this should only apply when using the decks in internal mode and not with Timecode control methinkx :stuck_out_tongue:

Thanks for the help and please run by me any other ideas / clues!

Z

Having the same problem here. It’s impossible to start a track spot on. I’m using absolute mode at the moment since it works a bit better.

You are on TS DUO right??

If anyone has a TS PRO that can check as well please lemme know!

Z

i’ve got a copy of tspro and its the same

hummm… my TS Pro had a resonable stable response unlike the ts duo… the plot thickens.

Z

So we all grab our pitchforks and torches and head over to the NI forum then ?

I’m on DUO btw

That or everyone files bug reports :stuck_out_tongue:

my tsp was doing the same when i had the beta test for 1.2. i don’t know what i did but it started acting normal like it should, after messing around with it

OT, but is the filter in Duo the same as in Traktor Pro? I kind of hate it because it allways gets louder when using the high pass. It kind of sounds like its overdriving.

Is there a way to update from Traktor Scratch Duo to Traktor Pro? Maybe a 99€*online upgrade?

Hey, I can really say for DUO. If you have Pro, you can’t run DUO :disappointed: So there is no way for me to check if you have these options.
Just check Preferences, Mixer and choose the Ladder Filter.

Lemme know if this hepz

Z

Sorry to dig up this Post but I had to help a friend in need 2day, and was able to get back on this…

1 - Turn OFF KEY and CD MODE … from all the tests we did it this totally nailed the prob!

Correct me if I’m wrong but Key in TRAKTOR is really hopeless … :disappointed:

If Key is ON
The sound goes totally off just as you press play - (on CDJ) - (after pressing cue (on CDJ) to get back to your errrrr… cue point) … turn it off and works just fine!
Also when you turn KEY ON you immediately notice that the sound becomes a little muffled..

With CD MODE ON and relative mode the strangest thing happend…
Press play (on CDJ) … let it play a little bit and the press cue (I’m using Vinyl Mode on the CDJ) so cd deck Stops (no timecode)… still deck on track moves slowly foward and doesn’t stop??? WTF!!! if it’s using timecode control and there is absolutly no sound (timecode or otherwise) coming out of the CDJ, then why does the track keep moving (mind you very slowly.. like 5 RPM or something)..??

In Absolute mode this does not happen though.

Traktor Scratch PRO 1.2.2 - Macbook Pro c2d 2.2 4GB RAM …

Just giving people the heads UP …

ALSO another tip (might sound stupid but as soon as I know it’s the best fail safe way)…
Before the gig … plug your audio 8… shutdown, after the all process reboot with the AUDIO 8 Already plugged IN… check the audio 8 pannel for any errors..
go about your gig!

Z

I’d be glad to hear any comments on this matter from any1 who had reported this problem 2.
BTW … I am using Auto BPM in the tempo settings (as I want pitch tracks manually with the CDJs but still have all EFXs beatsync’ed !).

Z