I haven’t tried Traktor Scratch since 3.4, so I thought I’d try it out since everything in TP 1.2.3 has actually been working close to perfectly for me.
I guess I’m just looking for a new headache or something. So, I loaded TP Scratch 1.2.3 on my test laptop (Windows), and hooked up my CDJ-1000s MKIII, through my Audio 8 DJ.
I had an issue when I last tried Traktor 3.4. Since I’ve never really seen anyone use Traktor Scratch, I don’t know what the normal behavior is. Anyhow, in TP Scratch 1.2.3 the issue still seems to be present.
The issue is that any cue I set by hitting the cue button or using the Hot Cue Buttons on the CDJ, are off by about a 1/4 beat when I recall them. When I hit the cue button to jump back to the set cue position, I see in the waveform that I’m about 1/4 of a beat ahead of where I had set the cue originally. I should note that I’m not trying to use a Traktor Cue point to recall the start position and that I have tried this both when the track is beatgridded and when it is not.)
Since I’m an absolute novice with Scratch (though I do know all about calibration thanks to the Traktor Bible), I feel I must just be missing something. Can anyone help please?
I personally haven’t tried using CDJ’s and Traktor yet, I use vinyl. But, and I might be talking about something completely different here, have you got snap mode on in Traktor? I’m sure you’re probably already aware of this feature but sometimes its the simple things you miss that solve the problem.
As I understand it quantize is more for matching 2 beat grids to each other, so when one track is playing and you press play on a second track the second one will only start on a beatmarker to match the phase of the first, even if you haven’t timed it perfectly.
Snap on the other hand simply snaps que points to beatmarkers, try turning it on and dropping a que point in between 2 beatmarkers, its impossible because that’s what snap is designed to prevent. Snap only requires a single sound source to perform its function whereas quantize requires 2 sound sources to match the phase.
Well, i’m pretty sure all of those were off, but I will double check. I’m sure it’s not snap, because when cued, the track position in the wave form will jump from the Grid Marker to 1/4 beat forward off the grid marker rather than to it.
hmm… it kinda sounds like a cdj problem maybe? Like, I know some people have had issues, where the cue buttons on the cdj themselves had a little wobble, like they didnt set down in the right place. I dont use cdj’s though… soooo i have no idea what I’m talking about.
Hmmm… well, that’d be strange. I use those same CDJs all the time just to play with CDs. They work perfectly with CDs. They’re also almost brand new and MKIIIs are still the club standard for CDJs, so they should work with Traktor’s timecode without any strange issues.
yeah, i know they are club standard haha. If they work fine with cd’s… then thats not the problem i would say. Maybe some of the other timecode guys can come help you out. idk if Karlos uses TC, but he seems pretty versed in all of traktor, so he could probably help you out?
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This sounds like the bug that’s been getting at least a little attention over on the NI forums. A look at “technical issues” section should bring it up.
I don’t think you’re doing anything wrong, I know you know how to use this program.
BTW, not to hijack the thread, but do you still have your night at Blake’s? When I heard that, I was pretty excited to hear abt. controllerists taking over. I’ve played that club on TT’s, back in the day, but not since going digi. Still a good vibe over there?
You need them on dude, not off! But if it still does it when its on then I have been reading loads of posts about peeps having compatibility issues with CDJ’s. Could be something to do with that.
Interesting. Ya, i think I read something similar on the NI forum. Seems really absurd though because I know this has been happening since 3.4… which is like 1.5 years ago. Seems impossible that something so basic hasn’t been fixed after so long.
Anyhow, ya, I still do a show called Electro Pop Rocks every Wednesday at Blakes. It’s a good vibe. Over the summer it’s fuckin nuts and over Winter break it’s been just as insane.
Snap means that when you make a cue point in traktor it will be bang on a grid marker. It doesnt matter if you use cdj, vinyl or internal mode. When you make a cue point is the track playing or are you holding down the platter and hitting cue? Cos if it does it while its playing and snap isnt on you might not be getting it as accurate as you think.
After reading your original post again I’ve realised you might be talking about making a cue on the actual CDJ itself. If thats the case then like I said in my first post, I havent used a CDJ with traktor yet so dont know about reliability of that side of things. But I thought I’d just point out the snap thing as sometimes its something simple.
