Okay seriously,Traktor Pro is making me so angry. I’m trying to create a mash up set and it’s not detecting the correct bpm on almost all the songs I’m importing. So I have to find it online. But once I put in the correct bpm the beat grids are still way off. Tapping in the bpm doesn’t work either. I’m pretty sure the tempo doesn’t float.
Take for Example ACDC’s back in black. I import it and it says 186 Bpm which is wrong so I go to a site like BPM Studios to find the correct bpm (93.35). I put that in and the beat grids are still off.
you should note 186 bpms IS 93 bpms, just doubled. i have a hotkey mapped to double and half the bpms detected by traktor, you should try that out. but like someone mentioned, tracks like that one by acdc are not going to be beatgridable because the bpm is decided by a human drummer, which will almost always fluctuate. so i do one of 2 things. if i want to play the whole song, i will warp the track in ableton then it will be beatgriddable in traktor. or for a quicker solution, and one that often works for mashup sets, is to find a section of the track that you want to loop and set the beatgrid on the same beat where you want the loop to start, then just ensure that the beatgrid is tight over that one looped section. often works if you just want the guitar solo looped, as you might for the acdc song
Yeah, there isn’t any software that is going to get this perfectly every time, especially for live drums.
Shmobletons is right, it’s just doubled, so hit the half-time button. You also need to set your own beat grid marker, not let it sit with the auto one cause that can be wrong. It’s supposed to be an easy option, but not perfect.
Well it seems that DJ apps are slowly becoming able to detect every best and not just a fixed BPM value with a fixed beat grid. I think Itch will get this with the next update, it seems Mixxx will also get this in their upcoming 1.8 update and Karlos mentioned that its on the todo list from Traktor (they are already working on 1.3 according to the last traktor on the record).
…you could always do it the old fashioned way and just match it by ear, the same way DJs have been doing for the last 20 years until programs that could detect the BPM came along.
But yeah as people are saying with almost all non-electronic drums there are gonna be fluctuations in the tempo even more recent stuff with the drummer playing along to a click track but especially stuff from the 60’s/70’s/80’s and most of 90’s when they weren’t using one.
You’ll either have to straighten it up in a production program like ableton or pro tools first so it has a steady BPM and you can mash it up in Traktor, or just import all the mash up parts into one of those programs (cubase, protools, ableton, fruity loops etc etc) and piece it all together in there, which to be honest is how almost every mash up is done anyway unless it is done live at a gig.
I think theres a lesson here. The Thread is called ‘Traktor Is Pissing Me Off’ and without trying to be an arse , what weve realised is the OP was a little hasty with the title. Maybe “I dont understand Traktor Beatgrids , how do i grid a fluctuating Beat” would have been a better title ?
I don’t know if was the title, but I’ve loved this topic, this is exactly what I want to learn this week.
I have the ableton installed here so I have some questions:
How can I cut the Vocals, or the Guitar, or the Bass from a music?
Once the music is warped, how can I use the beatgrided song on tracktor?
The answering can be a link to a tutorial or a short explanation if you have some time to spare with me
V-Hoff: After you’ve warped a song you can just drop it into Traktor to grid.
You can only cut the vox, guitars and bass using EQ, or maybe Ableton has some tricks I don’t know about, but you can’t really just remove an instrument without the multi-track.
Yep, there was a fairly long thread on this a while ago that has a full explanation but the short answer is without the original multi-track recording you can’t just remove an instrument or vocals from a track.
There is the phase inversion trick (explained in the thread) that can potentially remove anything centre panned, which is usually vocals and some main instruments, and you can also spend a LOT of time playing with expanders and compressors and eq and sometimes achieve usable results, but it is all far from perfect.
