traktor scratch pro w/ tinyxp

traktor scratch pro w/ tinyxp

hey folks,

I’m having some troubles here getting TSP to run smoothly on my machine. After a complete format, recovery, reinstallation and two more gigs of ram, its only a little bit better. I did some serious memtests, numerous tweaks and pulled out most of my hair. When i reinstalled my OS, I partitioned the HD because I interested in installing linux just for curiosity s sake, but now i’m thinking of putting in tinyxp, and use it specifically for TSP.

I know it would be pirated software, but, I’m kind of pissed that vista is being such a bitch, and i don’t really care about it.

computer specs,

toshiba satillite a210
amd turion64x2 @ 1.9 ghz
4gigs ram
5400 rpm HD, with tons of space left.

symptoms are cpu meter spikes every once in a while and make real bad fart noises. TSP is updated, latest audio8 drivers. I have windows stripped down to the bare minumums…it should be enough machine to run TSP. My dpclat shows a spike every 15 seconds, up to about 450us. Iver tried shutting down everything, except the bare minumum to keep the computer running.

Any help would be friggin awesome, my head is about to explode.

thanks.
Tim

oh, and i guess my origional question was if any of you had experience with tinyxp and TSP.

Cheers!!

I have the turion 64x2 @2.0ghz in my laptop and I have no issues with Traktor. Is your bios updated? Latest drivers for everything? Is your traktor pirated?

I updated as much as i could. I’m not too sure about the bios though. I’ll have to research that.

no, traktor isn’t pirated…I checked all my drivers…a couple of times.

mabye its just getting hot. perhaps i should take it apart and see if some dust is clogging up the fan, or heat sink.

is there a way to tell how hot your CPU is getting? would they put sensors in there? any idea how hot is too hot?

tim

mobo monitor and you should do a google search about the spec on ur processor and see how hot it can get before you start running into problems

Some light reading about Toshiba Laptops and Traktor.
This is an old thread but with some newer posts and some stuff about fans, overheating and general spikes with Satellites .
http://www.native-instruments.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52319&highlight=toshiba+satellite

I run Tiny XP on a separate partition on a 5 year old Dell 700M 2.0 Pentium M with 2 gigs of ram. Works great. I do have to take the battery off to keep the APC spikes away though. Just make sure you install the version that includes Windows media player - Traktor Pro needs the drivers in it to start up.

you can make a check, if you system is optimized enough to run real time audio streaming with dpc latency checker:

http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml

it will give you the information you need about your system…other than that i have also heard about toshiba sat´s and probs with traktor..!

well, thats def. some closure for the situation im in. I’m still going to try the tinyxp and see how that works.

I flashed the BIOS last night, nothing different. Time for a new laptop i guess…uhg.

Funny thing is, it was running before, i just had to keep the latency up. I’d be reading boards and people would be like “oh, im only running 2 or 3 ms latency”. I could never understand how anyone could get it that low.

thanks again everyone. I’ll try tinyxp tonight, and let yas know. Or i’ll buy a new laptop…or take a loooong walk of a short roof.

..did you even read what i have written you:roll_eyes:maybe that helps you to see if your system is set up right to handle tight latency..anyway enjoy:smiley:

yep, i checked.

ok, then it seems that your system isn´t optimized yet..i would check that before buying a new laptop or running tinyxp - just to make it sure..!

..just give me a few sec´s..

try to tweak down your services like this:

i have tweaked my xp pro down to only run 11 services:

DCOM-Server_Prozessstart
Ereignissprotokoll
IPSEC-Dienste
Kryptographiedienste
Plug & Play
Remoteprozeduraufruf (RPC)
Sicherheitskontenverwaltung
Überwachung verteilter Verknüpfungen
Windows Audio
Windows Verwaltungsinstrumentation

in my taskmanager there are running folowing processes:

explorer.exe
svchost.exe
svchost.exe
svchost.exe
lsuss.exe
services.exe
winlogon.exe
csrss.exe
smss.exe
system
Lerlaufprozess

it´s in german but you should get the picture…also make sure you have disabled any kind of “speedstepping” ect. so your cpu is allways running at its highest possible frequency:

also disable windows index service:

maybe try this first to see if it solves your problem..here is also an in depth tutorial on optimizing xp for audio applications in english language:

http://audioforums.com/windows-xp-optimization.php

Dude i posted that for reference. There are people using Toshibas and getting good results as had been said…

Firstly having 4 gig ram will do nothing to improve performance with Traktor if you are getting spikes so thats never a solution. Spikes are not cured with extra ram.

Also i wouldnt expect 2 or 3 ms latency. That is territory that only a few people occupy. 10ms or less is fine. But you shouldnt have to settle for more than 15 ms. NI do not guarantee anything better than the standard 10ms anyway.

You could tweak that machine and get it working fine but you have to dig really deep into those spikes with a DPC Latency checker.

Id get some good advice from Compact and other Toshiba users before giving up on your machine.

here is a link to a great tweak fest for audio apps it was posted on the Torq forums by Dj Quintyne

its def worth a read though to get problem systems working :sunglasses:

I used a Toshiba sat 17" no problems I now use a mac but with xp I can get most systems running fine alot of the tweaks posted in the above link I used

got xp down to 14 processes idle 90 mbs of ram

but tbh fuck all that and get a mac saves all this

Hes on Vista at the moment though. I see both previous threads suggest good tweaks but for XP. Vista is whole other world of problems.

…seems like i have forgotten my eyeglasses, today:sunglasses:

thank you for pointing out!

so for optimizing your current os, work thru this in depth vista tweaking tuto:

http://audioforums.com/windows-vista-optimization.php

have a nice weekend…

compact

yeah I hear you m8 hense my move to mac

these might help

http://www.audioforums.com/windows-vista-optimization.php

http://www.tweakvista.com/

I am amazed at the power of google :roll_eyes:

alot of tweaks for xp run though to vista btw still worth checking them out vista is still windows at heart just a memory hogging version

but yeah get a mac :sunglasses:

a clean install of tinyxp takes 15 minutes. This is much easier than the other suggestions believe me. I have my tinyxp partition dedicated to Djing. My other XP pro partition is for everything else.

dual boot on windows is def the way to go for audio

can´t say anything about tinyxp…

+1 for an extra partition for audio:wink:

+1 for partition.

Im really not convinced about using a hacked OS. Just not something i have any experience of. I just think if you have to tweak your standard OS then using a hacked version would invite more problems but… if it works use it.