Urgent, i’m looking for 2 single deck controllers + mapping
Hello DJTT forums,
I’m having a problem and i’m looking to fix it for a while now. So i want to have 2 single deck controllers to put on each side of my mixer, but i didn’t found what i want.
I have a Z2 as a mixer, but i want to control deck 1 with a controller and deck 2 with another controller. The only suitable midi controller i found was the BEHRINGER CMD PL-1.
Do you guys know if it’s possible to map this (i can’t) or do you know any alternatives (maybe with a pair of X1’s or so)…
Also you might ask yourself why? It’s because i normally use a DVS (turntables), but i’m still learning and the equipment is a lot of work to carry and fails sometimes on stage (mainly my turntables), so when i’m playing live, i need something else for now.
Denon used to make a DN-SC2000 (i think that’s what it was called) that does that. Technically, each unit controls 2 decks, but you don’t have to use the layers if you don’t want to. It’s a pretty small platter and not super-quality. Also, no warranty. And it might be hard to find a pair.
Stanton also used to make the SCS.1d, which was pretty cool because it had a motorized platter. I’m sure somebody released a Traktor mapping for it, but there are some issues. 1. It’s stanton and discontinued, which means support is basically nonexsitent. 2. it’s Firewire, so if you have a PC, you’re probably SOL, and if you have a newish Mac, you need a Thunderbolt to FW adapter (apple sells them). These will be even harder to find, since they sold terribly. They were good devices in terms of hardware, but the market didn’t care and Stanton kind of abandoned them.
This is the most recent video I could find on it:
I’m really sad that these things didn’t catch on. It was a pretty cool idea, but the setup was just too damn complicated…it required another piece of software to be running on the laptop and didn’t gain any traction before Stanton gave up.
There’s the Numark V7, which is made for Serato. It’s expensive and heavy, but it has a motorized platter. I keep reading mixed reports on how well it works with Traktor.
Frankly, this is a big failure in the market. There aren’t any standalone deck controllers currently made that I’m aware of. A lot of CDJs have this functionality, but then you have the choice of using expensive players as a controller (which seems dumb) or dropping the software and not using it’s features (which seems like a step backwards). Either way, they’re fairly expensive and you get what you pay for. And not all of them can do it.
If you don’t want to use an all-in-one controller or traditional gear, I think the way things are right now boils down into 2 big setups:
Standalone deck controllers like the X1 or xone:k1/k2, a mixer, and just deal with not having pitch faders or platters.
DVS with good turntables, possibly also with an X1/k1 for other software functions.
It sounds like you have #2 and it’s not working for you. Is there anything we can do to help you out getting that running, 'cuz I don’t think what you’re wanting exists.
Mostapha, have no idea what you’re talking about.
Jog is the same as on other Denon controllers (12cm diameter). It’s touch sensitive (adjustable from ultra sensitive to requiring a firm press to enable scratching) with scratching on top and pitch bending on the side (just like on CD players). There are aditional pitch bent buttons.
Build quality is superb (the only controller with a steel chasis) but the microswitches under the buttons are a weak link, they go bad after 1.5-2y. Thankfully, they are supercheap and any repair shop can replace them.
The one I played with did not feel or respond great, but I didn’t spend that much time with it…that was about the time I kind of made the decision that jogs on controllers weren’t worth the effort since I don’t scratch.
Well of course jogs don’t respond “great” with Traktor Pro (at least, not for serious scratching if you’re into that), we can thank NI for that.
VDJ was a whole different story btw
