Use 2 buttons on controller to make an action?
Is it possible in Traktor Pro to have two buttons work to make something happen? The reason is I am trying to make a TSI for my VCI-300 and all is good but some things are like SHIFT/ and another button together that loads track into a deck..I wonder if I can keep this style as it is like a safety to avoid hitting a button and loads the track.
You can use the modifiers for this. So a certain modifier needs to be active to load to a specific deck. What’s the protection you’re going for, though? You can always set it to not load into the playing deck.
I was wondering about those modifiers..How do those work?
Any info on this? I looked at the online help pdf but nothing..
Well, I was trying to keep it like on the VCI-300. It has 3 buttons and to load a track it is needed to push the middle button and at same time hit left button or right button, depending on which track you wish to load. How do these modifiers actually work? I tried to read documentation on this, but could not find in the demo manual.
Thanks
For something like this you would go into your MIDI Mapping in Traktor and set
Modifier #1 - Direct - Value=1.
Hit Learn and press that middle button.
Then set
Load Track
Select Deck A
Learn and press applicable button. In the modifier section select M1 and value 1.
Now, whenever Modifier 1 is set at a value of 1 (When you are holding down the middle key) the top button will load to deck A. You can set it so that when no modifier is down it can do anything else.
When you release the middle button then the top button should not load to Deck A. It should not do anything.
If this doesn’t make sense I can give a more detailed description when I get home.
cool..nice to know this. Is there any tutorial on modifiers here?
Seems like cool control.
Hi DvlsAdvct ,
I tried to do as you said, but the middle button does not do anything.
When I hit the left button it just loads the track. See the snapshots of the midi set, maybe I am doing something wrong. I am new to this modifier thing.
Any ideas?
Set it to Hold instead (dunno why I said Direct, was at work, brain wasn’t functioning)
Make sure that whatever other function the button is supposed to o is set to M1 V0 so it doesn’t try both actions 
cool.
Can you explain what the values mean? I assume 0 is off..but 1-7?
I read these articles on NI, basic midi, but still confused.
yes..works..cool
Thanks
I’m gonna try and explain this as best I can. If it confuses you further I apologize.
Modifiers are used as shift keys. You use them to change what your MIDI controller commands do.
So, for example, you are using a standard VCI-100, set up like any other controller. You want to make your transport buttons (Play/CuePause/CuePlay/Cue) control your loops instead. So you create a modifier. M1V1. You create four commands on those same four buttons (Loop Size Up/Loop Size Down/Set Loop/Reloop). You set them to M1V1. Now, whenever the button you assigned for Modifier 1 Value 1 is active, those buttons control your loops. Now, you need to tell it that the transport buttons should not work on M1V1, so the default is M1V0. Whenever no modifiers are set, those buttons will work as transport buttons.
Now, this is where the logic of modifiers comes in on a personal level. You can designate individual Modifier numbers for individual functions. So, M1V1-7 will be different modifiers for loops only. So, M1V1 will set loop size and drop it, M1V2 will set custom loop sizes (Set Cue In/Set Cue Out/Loop Move Fine Up/Down). Now you will want to switch between them, so you set a command to set M1V2, depending on the function you are going for at the time.
Now, you want to augment your controls even more. You can’t have controls set to M1V1 AND M1V2 at the same time. It just doesn’t work. Modifier 1 can’t have two different values at once. So you want to have four deck control on your two deck solution. You create M2V1. When M2V1 is active then you control Decks C & D. Now, you go through and set all of your commands that change (EQ, Volume Fader, Transport, etc.) to M2V0 for A/B and M2V1 for C/D. Now, this is where things get big.
You have your transport buttons set to M1V0 already. Now, you set them to M1V0 M2V0 to control A/B, and then M1V0 M2V1 to control C/D. But you want those same loop functions for the other decks. So now, when M1V1 M2V1 is set Loop Size Up/Loop Size Down/Set Loop/Reloop works on decks C/D also. You wouldn’t be able to do this with only 1 Modifier with 7 values without a LOT more being put into your .tsi. And, at that, you have 8 Modifiers with 8 values (0-7). That leaves… a lot of different modifier combinations to play with, making any controller completely individualised based on the individual DJs needs.
I don’t know if this helped at all, though. If it didn’t, sorry
Hi,
Thanks for your help! I am kind of getting this. I have made it where some buttons by holding on mod buttons make buttons do other things..
Like you showed me. I just cannot get the buttons to work as a simple button “on” & “off” state. I can only get things to work via “hold” in modifiers.
I tried direct and so on..Now I am trying to make it where if a button is clicked
once it will make the pitch control, control deck c. Click again and back to deck a / b..Like changes midi pages in Traktor 3.. Sure it can be done..
It can be. I did it in my .tsi I posted. I think the big thing is the different buttons you use, some can be toggled and some can’t, I think. If you check that .tsi out I have M1V1-4 set to toggle through with outputs on the 4 black buttons.
maybe it is some buttons on the VCI-300 and maybe there is or is not a toggle..but they Toggle with itch, but maybe a toggle can be simulated with modifiers??
it can. Can’t remember how I did it off the top of my head. Tonight or tomorrow I’ll sit down and go through it again. I think it was just with Direct.
I kind of like this modifiers thing..Kind of fun..Now I am trying to program the mixer volume slider (VCI) left to control the volume of the mixer volume of Deck C when using modifier 3, I made..(guessing around)..Problem is now the volume slider of the mixer is assigned two times..What am doing wrong??
(see the snaps)
Thanks so much for your help
Nope, that’s right. That control has two assignments. The modifiers makes it okay, though. Make sure that M3V0 is set for when you don’t have anything activated, though. Then it won’t do both.
cool..works..I understand V1 & 0..like on /off, but values 2-7 I am a little lost.
Thanks again
see what you can find out.. Holding down HOLD all the time will be hard while trying to adjust pitch and dj on deck C
Alright, this is what I figured out.
I set a button to Modifier 1 Value 1, Direct. When I hit it it sets to Modifier 1 Value 1 and holds it.
Now, the problem is that you can’t get OUT of M1V1 without telling it. So you need to set a command that says “If M1V0 Then M1V1” and “If M1V1 Then M1V0”. So when M1V0 is active and I hit the button it makes it M1V1. If M1V1 is active and I hit the button it makes it M1V0. Both as Direct. Try that.
Values 2-7 would be used when you want the same buttons to do similar things that should never overlap. So, for example, you want the transport buttons to never have conflicting commands. If you have, hypothetically, all of your modifiers as toggles (Direct) instead of Holds this can cause problems. If you turn M1V1 on and then want it to be M2V1 you need to make sure M1V1 is off. If not you can end up having two different commands going off at once.
You want Modifier 2 to control your deck switches, while Modifier 1 to control your transport buttons. We’ll use a new example.
SETTING 1
Button 1 → Play
Button 2-> Cup
Button 3 → Cue
Button 4 ->Cue/Out
Those are what you’ve assigned your Cue Buttons for. Now, you want to switch them to control your loops. You create a modifier M1V1. When M1V1 is active then
SETTING 2
Button 1 → Loop Size Previous
Button 2 → Loop Size Next
Button 3 → Cue Drop
Button 4 → Cue Out/Loop out
Alright, so when you hit your modifier button the transport buttons become your loop controls. Makes sense. Those buttons would never control both functions at once. You wouldn’t want to hit Button 1 and have the loop size go to next AND the track pause. This could work for anything. So you also want to have those buttons jump to hot cues. You wouldn’t want to have it make multiple actions at once, so you set that to M1V2. Now, when M1V2 is active
SETTING 3
Button 1 → Jump to Hotcue 1
Button 2 → Jump to Hotcue 2
Button 3 → Jump to Hotcue 3
Button 4 → Jump to Hotcue 4
Okay, so now, here we go. You decide to set your controls for 4 decks. You want those buttons to control Decks A and C depending on when you hit another button.
If you do this on Modifier 1 you need to reset everything. So, on M1V3 it will be SETTING 1 for deck C. Then M1V4 will be SETTING 2 for Deck C, etc. etc.
Realistically, you still need to code everything, but it’s less modifiers to create, and less buttons to hit.
Hope that helps a little.