VCI-300 MKII vs NI S4 What you guys think?

VCI-300 MKII vs NI S4 What you guys think?

This two are being use by many djs all around the world, from pro djs to bed room djs use them but what do you guys think is the best one? at this moment Traktor is becoming the standard on digital djing, but what about Serato? here are some features of the two so let me know your opinions on this thanks guys :slight_smile:

VCI-300 MKII Features:

Vestax VCI-300 USB DJ Controller and Audio Interface Features at a Glance:

  • Includes a full version of Serato ITCH software
  • USB Port, Bus powered
  • 12-level LED L/R indicator
  • Crates/Files/Browse key and cursor switch
  • Adjustable JOG wheel and fader curves
  • Mic Input x 1
  • Aux Input RCA x 2
  • Headphones Out x 1
  • Master Out Phone x 2, RCA x 2
  • Input Fader Curve Control x 1
  • Cross Fader Curve Control x 1
  • Optional Adapter: DC-9V 500mA
  • Differences between MKI and MKII: Now features small 1/8" and big 1/4" headphone socket, master volume boost when using an external power supply, new adjust knobs for the platter sensitivity, new optional Vestax digital crossfader, new analog throughput for mic/aux input.

NI S4 Features:

Native Instruments Traktor Kontrol S4 DJ Controller and Software System Features at a Glance:

  • Highly integrated 4-deck Traktor controller and flagship software
  • Plug and play - all you need to start mixing is your computer and MP3s
  • Includes special version of Traktor Pro (Traktor Pro S4)
  • Traktor Pro S4 includes all standard Traktor functionality plus 28 Traktor effects
  • 4 channels, each with a level fader, a 3-band EQ, a filter knob, a gain control, and 2 effects sends
  • High-resolution, touch-sensitive jog wheels with rubber-coated outer rim and glossy top plate
  • Patent-pending magnetic-brake jog wheel technology
  • Hardware and software work at very high resolution (30 times greater than resolution of MIDI)
  • 4-channel mixer with ergonomic layout
  • Powerful MP3 management, with iTunes integration and iPod compatibility
  • Fully customizable control surface works with any MIDI-controllable software
  • Sample Decks provide live sampling and looping (4 loops per Sample Deck)
  • Loop Recorder allows on-the-fly recording and loop playback from any channel
  • Low-latency drivers for Mac and PC
  • Cirrus-Logic AD/DA converters (up to 24-bit/96kHz resolution)
  • Ultra-wide frequency response
  • Dual 1/4" and RCA outputs
  • High-gain outputs (up to 9.7dBu)
  • High-quality 1/4" headphone jack with separate controls for headphone volume and cue mix
  • 2 x stereo RCA analog input channels, switchable between line and phono level
  • Routing can be conveniently assigned from within the software
  • 2 x 1/4" microphone inputs with adjustable gain
  • MIDI I/O
  • Package includes S4 hardware controller with built-in audio interface, Traktor Pro S4 software, USB cable, power supply, manual, keyboard function mapping sheet, and Loopmasters Loop Library with 40 original loops and 10 full tracks
  • Depth: 12.7"
  • Height: 2"
  • Width: 19.7"
  • Weight: 7.5 lbs.

I have an S4 and a VCI. Right now Traktor S4 has alot more features than Itch and the VCI 300. One thing that Itch has superior to Traktor are colored, stacked waveforms and warpable beatgrids. The VCI-300 is also smaller and much more portable and is made of metal.

Aside from that the S4 wins in every other category. If you are torn between the two I would wait until Winter NAMM on January 13th where it’s rumored Serato is going to unveil Itch 2.0 with Bridge/Ableton integration and also a new Itch controller. Things will be interesting then.

I didnt know that that serato was bringing a new version of the itch thats cool to know im gonna be checking out namm then thanks for the info.

S4… A no brainer if you ask me!

I’m with Tekki on this one, I have a vci-300. Just not great atall.

What you dont like about it?

Itch lacks major features that traktor has.
And you have to pay an extra €200 for the vfx to go with the vci-300. Not great for my style of mixing.

I’m sure it would be good if you were playing hip hop , r ā€˜n’ b or music along that lines.
But not great for techno / minimal / tech house.

Oh I see that sucks that you need to pay extra for something you should get with it you know, my style of music its mainly electronic so not for me :slight_smile:

this is a classic argument. As far as hardware goes - the S4 I like tons better. It’s in a different class. As far as software goes: more features does not equal better. Traktor has 26 effects and I used 4-5 of them. I don’t think it matters what genre your playing colored waveforms and flexible beat grids are very powerful tool and Itch’s system blows away Traktors. The VCI and Itch is as close as it gets to two decks and a 2 channel mixer - very streamlined and straight fwd system. If Itch adds a few things and comes out with a controller that can hang with the S4 there will be some serious competition.

I do agree that the VCI is not the competition right now.

Totally agree with you thanks for posting a response :slight_smile:

Traktor is where it’s at. I have the S4 but am contemplating getting the Vestax VCI-100 and do the DJ Tech Tools mods on it so it can play nice with Traktor, add features and all that good stuff… I would like the VCI-100se because I would like another toy to play with and it seems a bit more portable than the S4 IMHO…

S4, there’s no question. I’ve used a VCI-300 and they’re fine but for traktor i prefer the 100 and I’d deffo have an S4 over my VCI.

I think when the new itch software comes out we will have to recompare

Yes thats true we need to see whats the new stuff on it.

I played with the S4 yesterday and didnt really like it at all. I just want the new features to hit TSP.

First off, you have to realize this forum is S4 fanboy central. Not that it’s a bad product or anything… maybe a little overpriced.
The VCI-300 is a good product, simpler than the S4, which is a good thing. Do you even have the skills to manage 4 decks? I don’t (yet), I’ll stick with doing 2+fx really well. I think the answer to this question depends on your style of mixing.
The S4 is huge, the VCI fits in a laptop bag, along with the laptop. Consider that too.
Upgrades are free for Serato. The software is free, you can lend your controller to a buddy for him to use, no problems!
Not being a hater, just need to balance out the fanboys here.

I’ve spent some time playing with both in GC (on multiple occasions, the guys there know to hook up the stuff when I come in now lol).

They are different. Basically, that’s what it comes down to. I see the VCI-300 as more emulating a traditional setup with two TT’s and a mixer. The S4 does that, but it also brings in a lot more of the non-traditional as well.

Price wise? You probably get a lot more ā€œbang for your buckā€ with the S4. The jogs on both, well, that’s really a personal opinion. I like both, but the VCI-300 is more ā€œjog-wheelā€ focuses, while the S4 is more focused on the other controls. It really depends on how you want to mix.

For someone just starting out? The VCI-300 is pretty damned awesome for what it is. The colored waveforms that serato has are a great step in learning how to beatmatch (using the visuals as a crutch, even so).

Honestly, given a choice between the two, I’d personally go with the S4. The cost of the VCI-300 is too much for what it is, IMO. Buying one used though, the VCI-300 go for around $500, which is more than fair.

S4… I don’t like any of the new VCI’s -.-

VCI 400 ?? NAMM ?? I got the xponent I like it… but I would like to scratch on a vci 300 or s4… m audio has something coming hopefully at namm.. new xponent…waiting on namm too for a new controller…

As a person who has a vci-100se and who has never seen or touched an s4 or vci-300 if u want a no frills setup (traditional so to speak) with super tight intergration with its host software id go with the 300. Also if its built anything like the vci100 its a tank.

But if you want something to do ā€˜live remixing’ on the s4 is the way to go imo. Even though traktor s4 software is made for the s4 i still dont think your going to get the intergration the 300 has with itch.

I also believe that talk of the ā€˜bridge’ is irelavent the cost of the new bridge (if their is one) and a controller will be seriously expensive. You will have to buy ableton, serato and the controller which i think will be super expensive.

If i was you id wait. Next 4months i think will tell alot in software/hardware land.