Wanting to buy the MIDI Fighter Pro when it comes back in stock, but first need help.

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Wanting to buy the MIDI Fighter Pro when it comes back in stock, but first need help.

Couldn’t fit a relevant title in the title field due to the character length, but yeah.
Wanting to buy a MIDI Fighter Pro when they come back in stock, but first testing if it applies to my needs with this guys PureData and TouchOSC settings;

http://www.djtechtools.com/forum/showpost.php?p=254621&postcount=168

Video of it in use here:

Haven’t got an iPad so can’t use any of those ones, and this is the only once I could find for the iPhone.

I’m not at total loss though, I’m pretty tech savvy there’s just a setting I’m not doing right. I’ve got TouchOSC installed on my iPhone, and it is connected to my WiFi and PC correctly. I’ve opened the patch in PureData and when I press the buttons on TouchOSC they are showing up on PureData, but I get this error everytime;

error: tgl: no method for '/z'

I have tried using it anyway. Opened Traktor Pro, imported the Instant Gratification .tsi file and then pressed the buttons on the TouchOSC layout.. but no luck.

AlphaBeta (the creator of the PureData patch) does say something about setting up the MIDI Out on PureData, but I’m not sure on how to do this.. so perhaps that is the error?

My MIDIMobilizer setting is ‘Not Connected’ and my CoreMIDI is 0/0 on both In and Out, but I don’t think they’re needed for this. (Or are they?)

Any help would be greatly appreciated, hoping to fix this error asap so I can decide on whether I need a MIDI Fighter. (: many thanks!

(Have PM’d the guy, but it only has like 6 posts so thought he might of left the forum)

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If you have a pc, you just need touch osc and rtp midi (and if I remember Apple’s Bonjour is needed too).

[quote]My MIDIMobilizer setting is ‘Not Connected’ and my CoreMIDI is 0/0 on both In and Out, but I don’t think they’re needed for this. [/quote] Midi Mobilizer isn’t needed but core midi shows you that in and out are working (so if it doesn’t show you 1/1 on both no misteries that does not work.

Check you tube and look for Yul303’s channel, and check for my latest video, I’m using an Iphone as a complementary controller.

That’s the second time I’ve set up touch osc and rtp midi on a pc (this time using vista) and din’t encounter nay issue yet.

Install rtp midi
run it
Set it up so “only computers in your directory” may connect to you
In the frame “my sessions” if your computer’s name doesn’t appear, click on “+”, it should appear.
Make sure session is enabled (ticked)
A port should be set up too automatically (usually 5004)
Open Touch osc on your iphone, its name should appear in the participants frame (within rtp midi)
Within Touch osc, “core midi 1/1 in and out” shows you your iphone communicate with rtp midi (after a few seconds)
Within Traktor for each file(s) that constitutes your tsi file for your template the in and out port should be set up to your computer (its name should appear within the list of ins and outs).

If the above doesn’t work, too bad, I cant’ help you further than that.

As a note, any control within a touch osc template should be set as midi (ticked) and set up as you want them to be (you’ll be amazed how many people just don’t realise they didn’t set up midi for their controls).

Good luck.

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That’s a bit vague, how would I fix it then using rtp midi?

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I’ve edited my first reply, but then, you could check rtp midi’s tutorial on their site.

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Thank for all your help so far mate, can clearly tell you can’t be arsed due to the attitude but I appreciate your time. :stuck_out_tongue:

Nothing showing up in the ‘Participants’, do I need to change any settings in TouchOSC? Here’s a screenshot of my current settings;

Cheers.

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Can’t tell, you don’t need OSC to be set up, mine is disabled. Check core midi is enabled, in and out in the Core midi options are enabled too.

In rtp midi, do you see your computer’s name?
Is your session ticked?
Do you see your computer’s name in ‘local name’ and ‘bonjour name’?
Is there a port showing up in the port’s box (right upper side)?
Is there’s an address appearing on the right handside with your computer’s name, the port and the adress itself right under it?

On rtp midi’s web site within the tutorial, they are mentioning opening two ports, may be you could check that too (something I dind’t have to do but who knows).

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Yeah, here:

PC name is tekBLASTER, and the CoreMIDI is still 0/0 on both In and Out.

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Within the directory frame, click on the “+”?
If your iphone appears there, click connect eventually.

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Of course, the wifi is connected on your iphone and you’re on the same network as your computer?

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Ah yes that was the problem, it is now connected to my iPhone and TouchOSC is showing 1/1 on both In and Out.

I chose my computers name for the input and output parts of the .tsi file like you said but the layout is still not controlling Traktor Pro.

Any idea why?
And surely the PureData patch is needed, as otherwise how would the layout know what to do?.. (you mentioned that PureData is not actually needed)

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Winning! Cool it’s sorted on the techy side.

I’m not sure I understand what’s PureData, so I have a question, why do you want to use it?

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Cause I was following this guys steps as he made the patch;

http://www.djtechtools.com/forum/showpost.php?p=254621&postcount=168

He says to open TouchOSC, open the patch in PureData, and then import the .tsi but it doesn’t work.

Is there anyway I can use it with this rtpMIDI since I’ve set up already now? Or could you upload your layout and I could just use yours? As his one isn’t working. Cheers.

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I’m not at my place and I’m not using the computer where I have the file.

For what I understood bu I may be wrong, so double check, you don’t need any other stuff since the last patch (well at least it seems I don’t have issues so). The guy may have done it before that (but then Im’ not familiar with his file nor I saw the video so I don’t know for sure). You need on one side a touch osc template and a tsi file for traktor.

The template
Use the Touch osc editor (downloadable from the Hexler’s site), open the template you want to use (or create one whatever, but I can only recommend the later, it’s simple and fun to use and basically allows you to create the most convenient controller for your needs). Each template may have several pages. On each page there are controls: faders, rotaries, push buttons, leds, etc… For each control you need to select it and make sure the midi box is ticked, on the midi tab (where you ticked the midi option), you can set up channels and cc or notes.
As a detail some controls may be ‘hidden’ behind labels. Those labels can have themselves midi messages, but most of the time, there’s just that, labels. What I mean is you need to check how the control was ‘pictured’, is there a control behind the label, so you know what control to set up.
Some controls may be a bit weird to set up like Xy pad, I won’t detail here, you need to check the Touch Osc documentation, I recommend it really.

The tsi file
ok so you have loaded your template in your Iphone, loaded it within touch osc, rtp midi runs, everything is ok.
Each control from your template will send and (eventually) receive messages to/from Traktor. So as any controller you need to have a tsi file with all the functions created within it so the functions matches the layout/controls/actions you planned in your template. That’s just midi mapping like for any other controller.

For touch osc, there are several sites and templates available around for reference, I’m sure you’ll be able to find a template duplicating a midi fighter. Even if it’s for an Ipad, open the template in the touch osc editor, change the layout to iphone, get rid of the unwanted functions (understand the template beforehand), reduce the size of the controls, save and load to your iphone, load the matching tsi file, done.

I hope it helped.