as i have quiet a few drum loops i’ve put together kicking about different places on my hard drives, some of which never got used, and i consider myself to be fairly good at drum loops (then bass, suck at melodies - just stick with bleeps and squeaks as a rule).
i’m thinking of putting together a drum loops sample pack to release on juno download in the dj tools section.
Looking at maybe 20 4 bar loops, mix of broken and 4x4 beats, with bpms in the title, plus maybe some bass lines and some other random noises.
how many of you buy these kinds of thing? what do you consider a fair price for around 30 (wav only) loops? what do you look for in a pack?
$30 euro? i think that price would be out of my range. but yeah i would buy it. i spent $35 USD on 800mb of loops/one shots the other day on deep/tech minimal sounds. so if your offering tech house then i would be interested but depending on the price as well. I have on my favorites a list of loops to buy and in their name i have their prices $10, $13, $15 USD of 400-600mb of sounds. so i’m more likely to buy the less expensive first than the more expensive packs.
if you set a bpm of 127. but on fl studio i put the tempo to 126, does the mean that the beat will run at 127 instead of 126 ? how does that work. cuz i have a lot of sounds that are 125, 126, 127 bpm etc etc
Look for decent variation within a set range of bpm..I wouldn’t buy 30 that ranged from 80-160 as I only really work with 110-130..smaller packs are nice, and yeah , 1 euro per loop if it’s decent is fair And I love random noises, so I think it’d be worth putting those up too
not really used FL, so not sure how it grids/time stretches. but if it has the ability it should stretch it to the bpm you set. just going to put the speed in the title to make things easier.
i think i’ll prob price at 79p/loop and £7.99 for the whole pack? can’t decide if that sells me short, or rips people off, lol. but £25-£30 sounds too high. not sure what that is in euros though… about 9?
bpm range will be more likely from around 120 to 135/136 region. i don’t tend to work outside of that range tbh. might do some slower ones though.
make one for genres like tech house, minimal tech, 500mb+ $10e and i’d buy it. if your package 1. cost less & 2. gives a lot more than other packages out there, then people will consider yours easily for those two main reasons.
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I’ve never used drum loops, but have been contemplating the issue as of late. Was kind of hard to make a decision the few times I did look so I just never bought any.
You have 30 loops, but you can get way more loops than that though.
Example, take one of your loops and break it up. Just the kick, then just the kick & snare, then the kick, snare and hi’s, then the hi’s and snare, then the hi’s and kick and so on. You make it a lot more attractive now as it’s a lot more versatile.
good point, there’s a lot of things like this on there, which is what i’m basing on. i’ve seen some that properly take the piss on price. this isn’t an example of those, just first one at top of list. some are fairly random, some are genre specific.
as i mainly play/make house and breaks, those are the loops i’ll mainly end up making. if/when i do any others i might make them more specialized.
looking at around 150 MB file size, at a guess, for this…
also i want to expand on this; how do you mean decent? in sound quality? or the way the loop is structured? both?
as an example, check out the 2 new tracks on my soundcloud, going to use those drums for this. i’ll prob give them a touch of a tweak.
how much you want for this 150mb? and what is in it…
like one of my packages that i spent $55 bucks on came with this
Deep, Tech and Minimal house includes:
84 Subliminal Groove bass loops
300 Club ready Drum loops including tops, variations and percussion
54 Glitched out and Tweaked Up Loops
21 Lead Lines
110 Blissed out and Jacked up Sequences and Chord patterns
16 Full and Original Vocal Loops
30 ready to program Bass Tones
83 Spoken Vocal Phrases
555 Drum Samples and One shots
22 SFX samples perfect for breakdowns and minimal Mash ups
40 Synth Stabs
6 White Noise samples
all that for 55 bucks. and i loved it. i have a much larger collection than that tho and this month im kinda focused on just growing my collection rather than working on my current project/track. besides im busy decoding one of my favorite tracks wondering how many bars each part of the song goes for, how many instruments is used as the song goes farther, etc so i can insert that technique in my track as well and have a similar layout but a totally different sound.
be 20 drum loops, and 10 (at least) other loops, bass, random noises etc… minimum of 30 loops. drums will be mix of 4x4 and break beats.
not sure how much i’d charge, which is why i asked what people would consider fair?
some of the loops i can’t break down into kicks/snares/percussion parts as i just have the wav’s. used to produce loops in cakewalk and sequence in acid, so had to render them. however new ones i put together for this i might do that with.
keep in mind you’d be buying these loops the same way you would a normal track on juno download.
edit; sick! just found an epic 32 bar drum loop i made a while ago. that’ll be going in there
well then all i can say is be patience, work on it, because the stronger it is the better of a value it is. and idk about other people here but i’m all in it for the value. in my opinion i would say $5e. although i’m paying in USD, that will be 6 bucks and some change.
but if you sell it for more than $5euro then it will take time for me to buy it because i’m going in order from less expensive - most expensive.
but from what i understand, it seems like you are providing a better value than these packages, so if you were to charge more than 5euro but less than 8e then i might consider buying yours first. because so far your providing a lot more
yeah they i noticed that a button on the left called “full packs” for 20e. that would be what i would buy rather than those 5e packs. so they are out of my wishlist and the 20e packs are on. except for electro since i dont like electro house. plus i heard the demo of the pack and enjoyed them. i try to buy something that i know i will like 90% of it. but in reality previous packs i purchased i just end up liking 50% of the pack. but thats life heh ;p
yeah, bought a couple of discs last year, alot of the ‘kit’ parts and loops themselves weren’t great, but the one shot bits were very usable (so were the crap loops after a bit of chopping).
got a drum loop one as well that was 30/70 good/bad, some of it was really distorted to, and not in a good way
in conclusion, its all about taking risks, because its the only way of having a large collection. which im sure a lot of people dont do. is take a chance and spend 10-50 bucks on a pack. and i’m willin to do that. but if im going to do it, i’m going to start off with the small packs.
so, so far, my goal for this month, is to find as many sample packs as possible and then add them to my favorites and then buy the least expensive stuff first then build my way up.
didnt know anyone bought those. my first bit of “kit” as a teenager was a sampler so i just do that shit for fun when ive got writers block… which is more often then feeling inspired
I just buy tons and tons of sample packs, a lot of it was just buying packs at random, but after awhile you start to learn who puts out good packs vs those who put out crappy packs.
They are great for inspiration or to help finish off a project as well. Some days I’ll sit down and just start running through a random sample pack until I find something I like and start making a track based on that sample/loop. Be it a bassline, synth loop, hit hat loop, perc loop or something as simple as a vocal shot or phrase.
Plus I can use them in my DJ sets as well, and that’s where you’ll find some of the best grooves. Just play a track and start dropping a perc/synth/hi hat/vocal loop over your tracks and you’ll be surprised at how well some of them work together.
And I love random noises, so I think it’d be worth putting those up too